Sunday, August 14, 2011

The worst responses to the England riots

What have been the most sickening responses to the riots in England?

Contender number one is the left-wing writer who could not even stomach the very respectable efforts by certain middle-class whites to organise a clean up of the mess in the wake of the riots. These broom wielding members of the public alarmed Mr Lefty to the point that he described their tidy up efforts as:

the closest thing to popular fascism that we have seen on the streets of certain 'leafy' bits of London for years.

Some of his fellow lefties agreed with him:

Wit: This is really very good. Thanks for writing this. The Left needs to defend the riots; not to valourise the burning of grannies’ cars, but to make clear that we reject the whole bourgeois construction of events, that we stand in solidarity with the oppressed and that, when it comes to it, we will, without hesitation, join the “rioters” to overthrow the legitimised exploitation, state-sanctioned violence and sham “democracy” that oppress us all.

Polly: Agreed. I’m concerned how cowed the Left is currently by the backlash which is patently more frightening than the actual events.

So some on the radical left see the riots as a legitimate uprising against the bourgeoisie which the left should "without hesitation" join in; the middle-classes who stand in their way with broom sticks are, in this view of things, "fascists".

Nor is this writer alone in his analysis. At another site there is a serious analytical attempt to portray the smiling clean up crews as a form of fascism:

It is this structure of “community”, and “clean up” as the activity of this group, that an old form of popular fascism appears to be revitalized. The new communities of #riotcleanup again make their exclusionary nature clear: these people work not for all, and certainly not for the wellbeing of those who caused the unrest – to work against the poverty and racism – instead, they work for themselves, as a group, and their new society...

Frequently modern fascism is modeled as a post-human technocracy: Marx’s description of the human as a mere appendage to a machine elevated to a rule. Today we need to reassess these thoughts, as under the label of #riotcleanup an older ideology-based fascism is being restored. Unlike dystopic fantasies of a borg-like matrix, it is now necessary to start questioning the fascistic nature of “community” as it is manifest in the response to the riots.

My apologies for the painful read. It's an odd definition of fascism here: if you are working for your own community, rather than for everyone, then you are exclusionary and therefore a fascist. There can be no particular identities and loyalties it seems, when it comes to the radical left. That, to me, is an inhuman demand, one that would strip people of everything but an individualistic consumerism that presumably our radical leftist writer also disapproves of.

However, I don't think these attacks on the white, middle-class clean up crews as "fascists" win the prize for worst political reaction to the riots. The attacks on the white working-class by police chiefs and politicians were most sickening.

At one point in the riots the police were clearly outnumbered and unable to defend local communities. So a number of different ethnic groups turned out to defend their turf - and were largely successful in doing so. But what stood out was the different treatment of these groups. Below is a picture of a group of Sikhs defending their temple:

Even though they were brandishing swords, this group of Sikh men were treated as heroes for their efforts to defend their place of worship. Here's a typical newpaper report:

The Sikh community were running a military style operation to protect themselves after almost 100 rioters tried to attack the heart of the area early on Tuesday.

With few police around, elders at London’s largest Sikh temple in Havelock Road resorted to telephoning male worshippers for help.

One man in his 20s said: ‘They caught us off guard last night but we still managed to get people together to protect the area. We saw them putting on their balaclavas preparing to jump out of three cars but we charged at them and managed to chase them off.’

Turkish shopkeepers who stood guard outside their businesses and chased off looters on Monday night have been hailed as heroes.

When the gangs of youngsters arrived to wreak havoc in Dalston, East London, on Monday night, the men, armed with baseball bats, snooker cues and even chair legs, sent them packing

OK, but what happens when a smaller group of white working-class men do something similar and gather outside of a church in Eltham, London?

The police commanders have ordered a large mobilisation of officers to surround the men - as if they were the problem and not the rioters.

It's so striking - in the middle of a riot overwhelming police force is mobilised to contain law-abiding, unarmed, non-rioting white working-class men - in stark contrast to the treatment of Sikhs and Turks doing much the same thing.

The political class in the UK really does seem to have it in for white working-class men.

Finally, I should note as well that some of the political reaction to the riots has been very good. I'll try to cover this in my next post.


  1. What have been the most sickening responses to the riots in England?

    The most sickening response was the government's response -- flaccid, abject, hand-wringing inaction. "Oh dearie me, we can't do anything effective, it might hurt people's feeeeeewings!"

  2. Put these leftists in the middle of such a riot (or Third World country) without food, bottled water, cigarettes, cell phones, Palestinian scarves, computers- basically leave them there with nothing except a camera attached to their heads (which I call Moron-Cam) and watch them try to negotiate their way out such a muddle.

    People are brave when they have nothing to lose and when they want to impress their former hippy philosophy professor by spouting off some Marxist garbage they don't even understand themselves.

  3. Worst response? Try this on for size:

    WHEN ASKED whether police should resort to water cannons to control looters and rioters in London and elsewhere, Home Secretary Theresa May replied:

    "I don’t think anybody wants to see water cannon used on the streets of Britain because we have a different attitude to the culture of policing here. We police by consent and it depends on that trust between the police and the public."

    When she speaks of "anybody" perhaps she is only referring to the managerial class since most people outside that benighted class would want water cannons deployed, in the very least.

    When she says "We police by consent"
    does she mean that the police have to ask the criminals for permission before the police arrest them? Yeah, that's going to work!

    As for "trust between the police and the public", I'm sarcastically certain that trust between the police and the public has never been so high.

    "[W]e have a different attitude to the culture of policing here" likely means that tough policing is stringently applied exclusively to white people but not so much to the precious, protected-from-censure, vibrant minorities.
    (Use a search engine for "Sam Francis
    anarcho-tyranny" for clarification on this one.

    And when she says "I don’t think", well, I can heartily agree with that statement as it applies to her and the entire export-our-jobs and import-the-third-world managerial elite.

  4. My apologies for the painful read.

    Oh, not at all. Leftist fear is delicious. And the fear coming off the enemy is almost palpable.

    Something is coming. Something big. I hear it on the wind.

  5. This post, and the last post, seriously make me want to cry. It is that upsetting to see our men treated like this.

  6. Van Wijk,

    I have the same sense, that things are unfolding more quickly now.

    I just wish there was a better organised intellectual/political opposition.

  7. I agree that the anti-white working class reponse by the guardians of law & order is the most sickening. The Far Left are no more part of our community of value than are Al Qaeda, and their rants have no more effect on me than do those of Al Qaeda Imans. But the police are still nominally supposed to be protecting us, not attacking us. Seeing them take the side of the Left is (sadly) predictable, but horrible.

  8. The Far Left are no more part of our community of value than are Al Qaeda

    Something worth recognising.

  9. Good post. The most sickening responses has been the oppostion against native British organizing and protecting themselves and the white washing of the riots and indeed borderline sympathy for them.

  10. Elizabeth, thanks.

    There's an interesting YouTube video here.

    It shows the ludicrously heavy police presence in Eltham in response to the locals coming out against the riots.

    There is an element of absurdity to the police response.

  11. For those of you unfamiliar with postmodern higher education, the two quoted lefties almost certainly are or were students. The second one managed to hit six or seven tropes of academic leftism, the sort of thing one hears in endless papers read at "academic conferences." The real tip off is the gratuitous allusion to Marx and the "borg," which are completely irrelevant to the point (such as it is) that he is trying to make, but do let everyone know that he has studied "social theory." Anyhow, my point is that British taxpayers paid to have this poser taught to hate them, and to develop pompous rationalizations of this hatred.

  12. JMSmith said...

    British taxpayers paid to have this poser taught to hate them, and to develop pompous rationalizations of this hatred.

    .. Well said.

    dat is more or less the reason we iz where we are.


  13. The heavy police presence in Eltham reminds me of John Howard wearing a very obvious bullet-proof vest under his jacket when addressing shooters. It was theater intended to portray those most affected by and most opposed to his harsh anti-gun laws as violent thugs and potential assassins that he needed to be protected against. They were there to hear him and to talk to him, but he was there to demonize them.

    In the same way, the British police are there to demonize the White working men of Eltham, not to protect them or to carry out any normal policing function.

  14. The Eltham video has been replaced by something from a motor vehicle training video game.