Saturday, October 20, 2012

German far left hates Germany, maybe themselves

Early this month the German far left demonstrated in several cities. In Munich about 300 demonstrators marched; what was most interesting were the banners they held. Here are the two banners they marched behind:

Far left banners in Munich
 
The banner at the bottom simply reads "No love for a Germany". The top one is "We love genocide: for something better than the nation".

They want their own "Volkstod" - the death of the German people.

Here's another banner from Munich:



This one says "We love treason: against nationalism, historical revisionism and against Germany too".

In the German town of Rostock a similar march featured this banner:



The slogan simply says "Against Germany".

According to a witness the 300 far leftists at the Munich rally chanted the slogan "Deutschland ist schei├če, wir sind Beweise" which means "Germany is crap, we are evidence/proof". This suggests that they are not only against Germany but themselves too.

The problem for us is not so much the 300 radical leftists in Munich who are willing to march behind banners demanding the demise of their own nation and people. The problem is that mainstream liberal politicians on both the left and right are also stuck in a politics which leads to the same thing.

There is some variation when it comes to mainstream politics. You get some liberal politicians who think it's a good thing to be proud of your identity at an individual level but that government policy should be liberal in the sense that ethnicity/nationality shouldn't be allowed to matter when it comes to immigration policy. In this case, state policy runs counter to what matters to people at an individual level.

There are also more mainstream voices on both the right and left who believe that we should identity only with ourselves rather than with a nation or ethnicity. On the right Andrew Bolt holds this view:
To be frank, I consider myself first of all an individual, and wish we could all deal with each other like that. No ethnicity. No nationality. No race. Certainly no divide that's a mere accident of birth.

This is much the same view as that held by the blogger Osmond, who is a social democratic/Fabian leftist. He tells us that he's inclined to adopt a stance,
of individual identity, that I’m just “me”, I’m not locked into the confines of my heritage or culture.

There are some on the right who identify so much with Economic Man that they put the free movement of labour across national borders as a higher good than the preservation of distinct nations. And there are some on the left who blame inequality on the social construction of whiteness and who therefore look forward to the demise of white majority countries as the key step in the achievement of social justice.

So what we need to do is not so much the easy thing of rejecting the outright self-hating anti-nationalism of far leftists, but all of the political currents on both the left and right which lead in the long run to much the same thing.

28 comments:

  1. Interesting. You would never - and I mean literally never - get this here in Scotland where I live, even from the most extreme leftist groups going about Glasgow, of which there are a fair few.

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  2. I must also add, I despise people like this. Leftists are lower than just mere scum; they are the scum of the earth. I find it's probably better for me just to ignore them as much as possible.

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  3. The problem for us is not so much the 300 radical leftists in Munich who are willing to march behind banners demanding the demise of their own nation and people.

    The problem is there were not enough German men with the stones to give them the severe beating they deserve.

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  4. "So what we need to do is not so much the easy thing of rejecting the outright self-hating anti-nationalism of far leftists, but all of the political currents on both the left and right which lead in the long run to much the same thing."

    Dead right.

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  5. "You would never - and I mean literally never - get this here in Scotland where I live, even from the most extreme leftist groups going about Glasgow, of which there are a fair few."

    I put a lot of stock in genes, but such a difference between Germans and Scots can't be genetic; this mist be the effect of generations of anti-national propaganda directed at Germans and the German nation.

    We have to take anti-White and anti-national propaganda very seriously, if it reduces people to this.

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  6. Oh, where is the Freikorps?

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  7. Anonymous said...
    "I find it's probably better for me just to ignore them as much as possible."

    Ignoring them is the worst thing we can do. We must go after them, shout out, they are anti-white and they want White GENOCIDE. We must expose them, at every opportunity.

    For too long, we whites have tolerated their abuse and psychological warfare on our people. We have been playing the battered house wife, to their wife basher.

    These anti-whites do not have the moral high ground, they never did. The left are just an anti-white, genocidal outfit.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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  8. There is no act of genocide being committed in Germany. It is obvious that the people like you who promote the mantra are just Anti Non White. You have the fact that non whites exist. And because of that you consider them a threat and want them killed. You are Anti Non White.

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  9. "Ignoring them is the worst thing we can do. We must go after them, shout out, they are anti-white and they want White GENOCIDE. We must expose them, at every opportunity."

    Yes.

    Letting them have the megaphone hasn't worked out well.

    "For too long, we whites have tolerated their abuse and psychological warfare on our people. We have been playing the battered house wife, to their wife basher."

    It's worse than that. We're not going to be around unless we overthrow the "anti-racist" consensus.

    Since I realized how destructive the mass immigration and forced integration policies of our governments are to us, I've started to look on illiberal rulers with different eyes. For example, Fidel Castro was a very bad ruler - but the Cubans are still there. Our rulers are destroying us as nations, and as a race; they are killing our future. That makes them worse than tyrants like Castro.

    "These anti-whites do not have the moral high ground, they never did. The left are just an anti-white, genocidal outfit."

    True.

    "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."

    Yes it is. And that needs to be said.

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  10. Anon above,

    I'm not sure if technically it is considered genocide or not. But the result is the same. If there is no longer an ethnically German people in existence, then there has been a "Volkstod" (death of a people).

    The radical leftists understand this and celebrate it. They are anti-German and therefore march behind banners celebrating treason and genocide.

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  11. Anonymous, Saturday, 20 October 2012 7:22:00 PM AEDT, you are denying the obvious reality.

    Nations and races can die, and chronic mass immigration plus forced integration, assimilation and ultimately, inevitably intermarriage, is a logically and practically sufficient killing mechanism. It destroys the fundamental conditions needed for the targeted people to continue to exist. So it is genocidal.

    It's no accident that the same sort of people displaying their hatred of the German nation also favor the kinds of policies that will if continued inevitably end the German nation (and all other White nations).

    They are anti-White, so they like what kills the race and the nations that they hate. They are the haters, and in the 21st Century they are the ones promoting and justifying genocide.

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  12. It's about time the anti whites are called out for what they are, particularly our traitorous ethnic kin. Hopefully the White university Unions in the USA will take off on more campuses, and one could hope spread to other countries and continents. First the Universities then the Labor Unions, which announces our interests on the left side of politics. Then a Traditional Conservative party and think tank to break the Liberal right of Politics.

    We need to set up some institutions of some sort, if the neo liberal international West breaks economically and demographically fragments. Then we have the frame work to hit the ground running to put our European Western societies back together again.

    Even if the paradigm doesn't break we need to start getting our message out there, and start screaming louder then the other side.

    Look at the Homosexual lobby, they are a tiny minority, however they have one of the loudest voices in the stakes of propaganda.

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  13. It is really to our advantage when the far left takes off the mask and shows its real face. When most people think of the left, they think of social democrats and the welfare state. They do not think of Soviet Man. The long-term plan of the left is to re-engineer, the human race. One part of this plan will destroy national identity. Religious identity, family identity, even class identity (in the end) will be abolished. The aim is complete atomization of mankind.

    As Mark says, in this respect right-liberals, left-liberals, and the far left are in complete agreement. They wish to atomize mankind. Right-liberals wish to do this to make individuals more responsive to the market, left-liberals wish to do it to make them more responsive to their own desires, the far left wishes to do this to make them more responsive to the state.

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  14. Craig: "First the Universities then the Labor Unions, which announces our interests on the left side of politics."

    I don't know about "first" but it needs to happen.

    Unions are legitimate institutions that are necessary to protect the rights of the workers, and their bargaining position. And they have an imperfect but pretty good natural harmony with the interests of our nations and the White race. After gullibility (or lets say educability misapplied), the fatal flaw of the White race is unwillingness to pay the working man a family wage, with the devastating consequences being (1) the mass importation of cheap non-White labor to undercut White workers and destroy their solidarity through ethnic divisions and (2) the destruction of family life, with the ideal White family being two wage-earners and no kids. (In which case the two economic units might as well be both male or both female.) Healthy, reasonable unions have a natural tendency to counter all that, if only because healthy-minded men want families, and because ethnic solidarity is more pleasant and more profitable than ethnic divisions.

    The situation we have, where the political representatives of unions and many other institutions are lined up on most critical issues with the sort of anti-White haters who, if German, will call for ruin for Germany, and if Australian will at least undermine the natural harmony of the nations as much as possible, is strained and counterintuitive.

    Where is the overlap between the agenda of the hate-Germany crowd and the interests of an ethnic German miner or plumber in Germany?

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  15. JMSmith: "It is really to our advantage when the far left takes off the mask and shows its real face."

    It is. But then we have to follow though by calling them anti-White, which they are. If we call them "misguided idealists" or some abstract, dishonestly polite nonsense like that, we give them a free pass and cloak them in moral authority they do not deserve and certainly will misuse.

    JMSmith: "When most people think of the left, they think of social democrats and the welfare state. They do not think of Soviet Man."

    Right. And when the Soviet Union was around, they would speak of socialism and the rights of the workers as though they were one thing, ignoring the reality that wherever Communism gained power it crushed the workers and put down independent labor unions.

    Communism was the dictatorship of intellectuals, often (but not always) ethnically distinct from the proletarians they lorded it over, but the anti-White left ignored that as long as Communism seemed like the main challenger to the formerly-dominant White nations, much as many anti-White leftists now are willing to ignore how incompatible Islam is with their doctrines, because Islam looks like the main challenger to the historically White nations they hate. (George Galloway is an extreme example of this: his loyalty to the working class as the main agency of justice in history shifted to Islam. He had the same domestic enemies all the way along, just different foreign "allies" as the international landscape changed.)

    It's a sick game, and we are not up against people who fundamentally deserve moral respect.

    JMSmith: "The long-term plan of the left is to re-engineer, the human race. One part of this plan will destroy national identity. Religious identity, family identity, even class identity (in the end) will be abolished. The aim is complete atomization of mankind.

    Not really. Black people will retain Africa. Their race is secure, and anti-Whites exhibit no passion to force their nations out of existence through non-Black mass immigration and forced integration. Asians will retain Asia. Their race is secure, and anti-Whites exhibit no passion to force their nations out of existence through non-Asian mass immigration and forced integration. It's White people, the White race and White nations that are threatened with genocide.

    Maybe this is just because early leftists like Karl Marx had a Euro-centric view of history, and when they devised systems to destroy everything they hated their thoughts and passions didn't extend much beyond the world of European man.

    Whatever the reason, whether it's that or something else, it's beyond excuse. Genocide has to be resisted, not merely psycho-analyzed.

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  16. "daybreaker said,

    Right. And when the Soviet Union was around, they would speak of socialism and the rights of the workers as though they were one thing, ignoring the reality that wherever Communism gained power it crushed the workers and put down independent labor unions."

    " Genocide has to be resisted, not merely psycho-analyzed."

    Throughout history leftist dictators would gain power and take away the citizens guns, then the genocide began.

    As an American Conservative I cannot stand when people act like fascism is to the right of conservatism, Hitler was a fascist, being to the right of far left communism is still on the left. The indoctrination has worked apparently.

    Oh, and when I move out next year since I'm blessed to have the unalienable right to defend myself via 2nd amendment I will stock on weapons as much as I can, I would rather die defending my family and friends than be a servant to the all powerful ruler.

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  17. Oh, and when I move out next year since I'm blessed to have the unalienable right to defend myself via 2nd amendment I will stock on weapons as much as I can, I would rather die defending my family and friends than be a servant to the all powerful ruler.

    They'll let you keep your guns. They plan to destroy you and your family through mass immigration, sec.8 housing, indoctrination via media and schooling and probably also "environmental" regulations.

    Note that even if you homeschool it's hard for your offspring to escape the milieu the regime creates.

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  18. “There is no act of genocide being committed in Germany. It is obvious that the people like you who promote the mantra are just Anti Non White. You have the fact that non whites exist. And because of that you consider them a threat and want them killed. You are Anti Non White.”

    Calling for the end or death of ANY people is a crime defined by the United Nations as genocide. That makes YOU the Nazi by the way.
    Calling for the end or death of your own people makes you a GENOCIDAL FREAK and therefore worse than a Nazi. One day there will be an International Millitary Tribunal just like the IMT of 1946 ONLY THIS TIME, IT WILL BE YOU LEFTIST SCUM THAT HANG! Don’t worry you’ll get a fair trial just like the German leaders of 1946 got. I must recommend a book for all of you, especially my kindred in Germany – Jack’s War, see, www.jackswar.com


    The following is the definition of Genocide as defined by United Nations General Assembly. Violation is an International Crime, punishable by the International Criminal Court.
    …any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
    – Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II

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  19. Only semi-on-topic, but check this out: You thought the whole 'EUSSR' thing was over the top? Have a look at this poster.

    The focus on the article is on the evil of the hammer and sickle, the symbol that surmounts the EU star and is repeated five more times within it, and that's a legitimate thing to focus on.

    But look at the distribution of symbols within the star that represents the European Union (and thus in a sense Europe) and the meaning of that distribution. It's important because this is how White people are persuaded (or brow-beaten) to think that they have no culture, that they have no heritage, that multiculturalism is mandatory and displacement is natural.

    We can all share the same star. EUROPE4ALL

    The overall message is inclusiveness, but only in Europe: Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone. EUROPE4ALL

    But let's see who this "everyone" is. In this star there are scores of symbols. Not one of them represents White people, but one does represent a traditional religion of Europe - really THE religion if we want to talk about Europe as a religiously united zone, once called "Christendom". Among these scores of symbols there are one ... two ... three Christian crosses. Talk about being outnumbered in your own house!

    If you think that the Jews are a European race rather than a Middle Eastern one (and they themselves do not agree, which is fundamental to their claim to occupy Palestine as the native people and not as a colonial one), there are four more symbols that represent Europe: the Stars of David.

    Judaism, more than Christianity, represents the main stream of the historic, native population of Europe? Is that right? Of course that's not right.

    All the other religious symbols visually represent alien peoples crowding out or replacing the Europeans who retain their native religion.

    This is the EU itself culturally defining itself as a creature of "inclusiveness" and visually defining "inclusiveness" in a way that mandates crowding out the native inhabitants of Europe and swamping their traditional culture through the mandatory integration of excessive numbers of incompatible alien elements.

    If you want a poster to represent "Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone," this is it, and they make it clear that ultimately this "us," this "everyone" means not the native inhabitants of Europe. (Forced integration and assimilation means that the Europeans would not even be allowed to continue as an insular minority in Europe.)

    This is not a few hundred protestors saying they hate Germany and the Germans. This is the EU, with all its power, and the symbolic space of guarding the collective interests of all the Europeans.

    It's important not to just focus on extreme lefties rudely saying what they mean, and give a pass to much more important, mainstream organizations more subtly propagandizing for the same result.

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  20. Important context for the poster: apparently it was produced by the European Social Forum, and merely considered appropriate for display in the corridors of Brussels.

    Everyone who sees a problem here at all seems to belong to the right-liberal crowd focusing in the hammer and sickle. Smitty at The Other McCain says:

    "I guess you’re not supposed to note that they put the hammer and sickle atop the cross, at the same level as the muslim crescent, all of which, along with the yin-yang, superior to the star of David. And the notion that the symbols are distributed randomly within a five-pointed star shape (itself associated, inter alia, with Communism)."

    Right as far as it goes. And I'm sure in the highly Israel-centric circles of the American right it is shocking to see other symbols made superior to the Star of David.

    But what about the Cross of Christ and its greater subordination in a display that stands for Europe? Is that not a bigger problem? It should be, if you are respecting the native, traditional peoples of Europe and their culture.

    Ed Driscoll notes that the star is a call-back to "the American granola left’s clapped-out “Coexist” bumper sticker — except now with an added bonus hammer and sickle."

    But the problem isn't only the addition of the Hammer and Sickle, but the explicit message of EUROPE4ALL (in other words, Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone but not the Whites), and this is a message which right-liberalism accepts as respectable and harmless (if boring).

    It's not harmless, it's genocidal. It ought not to be treated as respectable, it ought to be criticized as culturally destructive and demoralizing. And right-liberalism is useless or worse than useless.

    If you agree with the protesters, if you hate Germany and want the German nation ended, just go along with what "inclusive" bureaucrats want; they'll get you there soon enough.

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  21. It's interesting how the people marching are all native German leftists. In other words, the equivalent of white American liberals (except it's European). Basically, they're traitors.

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  22. If they hate their national/ethnic identity so much, why don't they just do us all a favor and kill themselves in a fit of altruism.

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  23. Elizabeth Smith: "It's interesting how the people marching are all native German leftists. In other words, the equivalent of white American liberals (except it's European). Basically, they're traitors."

    That's what they are.

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  24. Nice article showing the world how sick these anti-Whites truly are.

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  25. Where I live is now minority White. Blacks and Browns are jumping on the Anit-White bandwagon. I hope these Anti-White marchers get to live in the 3rd world hell hole they long for and that they remove themselves asap from our race. Sure they have been ruined by the propaganda, but they must have weak souls. Anti-Racist is Anti-White

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  26. More evidence that anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    They believe there is a race problem, and that the race problem will be solved, when ALL and ONLY white nations take in the third world and assimilate. This would lead to Genocide.

    Normally when you confront a leftist with this, they argue as if they've never heard of it, or is preposterous.

    But we all know its now, and know they are ADMITTING they are supporing Genocide.

    If there is a time for Germany to use its draconian hate speech laws, it would be now.

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  27. This is obviously a provocation, these idiots are trying to accrue a beating. Unfortunately, seeing that this is Germany, they won't get it. They need to bring in the Golden Dawn.

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  28. I think it is mere juvenile posturing with a special post WW tang. As serious as a dog's rolling over.

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