Sunday, October 09, 2011

Who would you choose to guard violent prisoners?

This is one of those stories you have to shake your head at. As we know, the Swedish state takes its liberalism very seriously. One aspect of liberalism is the belief that individuals should be self-determining. Since our sex is something that we don't self-determine, liberals often conclude that it should be made not to matter in an individual's life choices.

Therefore, a woman should be able to become a prison guard just as a man can, even if she is small and slightly built and in charge of large, violent, murderous men. In fact, according to Daniel Hammarland, at some Swedish prisons the majority of staff are now female.

Can you predict the result of this particular application of liberalism? The result is that there will be small, slightly built women bashed brutally to death by much larger, stronger, more violent men. This is what happened to 25-year-old Karen Gebreab in a Stockholm prison earlier this month. The details of her death are truly shocking.

The 5'2 (159cm), slenderly built guard was sent to accompany a 28-year-old prisoner, Erik Ljungström, who wanted to smoke a cigarette. Ljungström's crimes include attempted murder for stabbing a man three times with a knife, followed by his arrest after his release for attacking a childhood friend with a knife.

The only other guard in the vicinity was also female. Ljungström began his assault on Karen Gebreab by attacking her with his fists. She fell to the ground. The second female guard rushed in with a baton, but as guards aren't allowed to hit prisoners on the head, she hit him on the arm instead. He simply grabbed the baton and used it to bash Karen Gebreab. She was hit with at least 40 blows. When a couple of mintues later some male officers arrived, Ljungström stopped and surrendered. But Karen Gebreab died shortly after.

Here are the photos, first of the prisoner:



And the victim (she is in the yellow shirt in the left-hand bottom corner):



As you can see she is petite, even by female standards. She would have had little chance against a male inmate.

The problem with trying to make our sex not matter is that oftentimes it does matter. So you either have to admit that the principle is flawed or else detach yourself from reality. The Swedish state, it seems, prefers to be detached, despite the harmful consequences of being so.

28 comments:

  1. Sweden is a basket case country.

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  2. There's a second potential problem with female prison guards and male prisoners. Just the other day our county prison reported that two female guards had been dismissed for having had sexual relations with prisoners. This was not prostitution, but genuine erotic attraction, since both relationships continued after the men were released. Some women find dangerous men sexually attractive, and dangerous men are, well, dangerous.

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  3. "Sweden is a basket case country."

    From a distance it may seem that way but it's still a very good place.

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  4. Karen voluntarily took the job as a prison guard (most likely putting another man out of a job) so I do not feel sorry for her.

    She was trying to be a man and it turns out she didn't succeed. What a surprise. It is necessary for such women to sacrifice themselves on the altar of liberalism so that people can wake up.

    If I was a prisoner in Sweden, I would be most motivated to vote for the most left-wing party because I know they will give me what I want.

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  5. I've visited prisoners in Australia several times (the Remand Centre in Melbourne and high security prison in Laverton) and I was shocked at the number of females working there.

    My impression was that there were two types of females working there, lesbians and sexual perverts that got off on being close proximity to criminals.

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  6. Criminal insanity is the defining mark of the modern age.

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  7. You know it iss possible to read an immigration issue into this. This girl doesn't look like a native swede. So the story is she is the child of a migrant (or a migrant )came to Sweden the land of milk and honey. Was told she could guard violent criminals. Then gets brutally murdered by a violent criminal.
    Death by social engineering?

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  8. The entire premise of the article is flawed.

    Who should guard violent prisoners?

    NOBODY.

    Violent prisoners should be executed. The issue of guarding them is moot if they are where they belong - six feet underground.

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  9. Agree with the last comment, but don't expect this to be happening any time soon in liberal Europe. Even Russia abandoned death penalty under European pressure.

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  10. Anon @10:02 - in this case, I think the fact that she's an immigrant (or the child of immigrants) is irrelevant. Native Swedish women undoubtedly work in that prison, too, or similar facilities. Is there any reason to think that the outcome would have been different if the victim had been a Swedish woman?

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  11. No and your knee jerk reaction is juvenile. You didn't understand what I said. A Foreigner has been lulled into the liberal con of equality and put into a dangerous situation. She IS a foreigner no matter what you think.
    To placate your kind what if the murderer was a Neo-nazi that hated dark people? She has been put in a terrible position as a small woman and has been lied to by her society. She has been betrayed. In a society that was opperating properly this wouldn't of occured, no women guarding psychotics and no dead dark immigrant.
    My comment was sympathetic

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  12. For prison systems I believe women, AND men, should be highly training in combat and also do strength training to handle the inmates. I'm not sure how a petite male or female can be of much use against inmates who will usually be fairly strong (especially if they're weight training a lot).

    I've seen some very strong women and they should be encouraged as much as the men in keeping that strength.

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    1:19 Anon. Yes at least they be strength training if they are in this line of work but i've always wondered why criminals are fed enough to bodybuild themselves. Criminals should be underweight and of average strength.

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  14. You kidding? With the amount of care for the prisoners that Sweden has, I'd be surprised if they didn't get free Internet, a balanced diet and better healthcare than regular citizens.

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  15. Women guards should guard female prisoners only. There are other issues besides physical strength, have you heard about fraternizing and all those prison romances?

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  16. Ridiculous..though, not far removed from what we do here in the states. A woman I know is a parole officer in a very violent area of California. What a ridiculous career for a woman.

    Love your blog, by the way! A new follower today!

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  17. Oh well. Who would of though radical feminism destroys itself with reality...

    I fully expect more of these occurrences to continue, well into the future. Nothing like a good smack of reality in the face.

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  18. Darwin in action again!

    This story brings to mind a quote by the late, great Richard Heinlein, through one of his characters, Lazarus Long: (paraphrasing) "In nature, stupidity is a capital crime. Judgement is completely impartial, sentence is carried out immediately, and there is no appeal."

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  19. I wonder if male guards are allowed to guard female prisoners in Sweden. What could go wrong?

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  20. With the amount of care for the prisoners that Sweden has, I'd be surprised if they didn't get free Internet, a balanced diet and better healthcare than regular citizens.

    You may be joking, but I have no doubt at all the prisons in Sweden are just like this luxury prison in Norway.

    "Each inmate gets a private cell with mini-fridge, flat-screen TV and even a private en-suite bathroom and barless windows - because they let in more sunlight.

    Then for every 12 to 15 rooms there is a top-spec kitchen with stainless steel work tops and lounge areas complete with IKEA-style sofas and coffee tables.

    To cap-off their stay at Halden the prisoners are also able to use a gym, complete with rock-climbing wall, a music studio, and a luxury library."

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  21. You are assuming that all males are bigger or stronger than all females. Until there is scientific evidence for that stance (which I really cannot see coming anytime soon) you would be wise to seek other ways to justify your prejudice.

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  22. "Lucille" says: "Is there any reason to think that the outcome would have been different if the victim had been a Swedish woman"?

    It must be "raaacist" in your eyes to even notice the immigrant factor in this case.

    Save your liberal/leftist admonishments for the perpetrator of said crime, without jumping into your conditioned response of reading anything related to immigrants as being off-limits.

    In the group photo, I count 12 female guards and 4 male guards. About half of them appear to be NON-white, therefore not real Swedes from my perspective.

    Hope I'm not too "racist" in my personal views.

    Anyhow, here's another similar guard story that also ended badly after having a 5'1" female guard escort a 6'1" male prisoner in Florida.

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  23. Pompom Sönnfors said...
    You are assuming that all males are bigger or stronger than all females. Until there is scientific evidence for that stance (which I really cannot see coming anytime soon) you would be wise to seek other ways to justify your prejudice.

    Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:11:00 AM AEDT


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    Pompom (as in a cheerleader for the left), besides the fact that the photo evidence provided shows very average sized women, i.e., weaker and smaller than the average man, why don't you "justify your [leftist] prejudice" by explaining why public policy should cater to leftist ideologues out of touch with common sense and reality?

    Explain why a few women who are statistical outliers in physical strength should be allowed into a male prison to guard men: why don't you have your precious female prison guards go guard some female prisoners!

    Or, if you are sooo in favour of equality, why don't you get up on your high horse and start clamouring for more male guards in women's prisons? I mean, fair's fair, right? Or are you a hypocrite?

    As for your great need for "scientific evidence" here is a heads up: the left may have used science to decimate belief in religion for several centuries now but science has no loyalty. Much science in the past 30+ years has had to be shunted to the margins and out of the dumbed down mainstream because science increasingly embarrasses the left and its faulty egalitarian premises.

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  24. You are assuming that all males are bigger or stronger than all females.

    No, I am assuming that to guard strong, violent men you should employ strong, fit men capable of dealing with violence.

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  25. Just out of curiosity i searched for killed prison guards in Australia on google.
    I found out that in the last 35 years or so, there has been 4 prison officers killed only in NSW.

    NSW 7 million residents, 4 guards killed since 1978.
    SWEDEN 9 million residents, 1 guard killed in the last 40-50 years.
    HMMM.... i wonder witch country got the bigger problem with prison security........HMMMMM

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  26. Women and men have their strengths in different areas. I spent five years in the USMC and let me tell ya...the feminazi bs that some people keep spouting really REALLY grates on my nerves as it does a lot of female Marines. "Oh we need to be able to be special forces" Prove that you can do it...just like the men...JUST LIKE THE MEN and maybe I'll bite. Most of the whiners are just looking for one more thing to protest about. Am sick of it really. You want equality in our forces and in our public sector...prove that you can. Stop hiding behind the AA crap (yes this is for people in the States). Get off your fat, potato chip eating butts and show me you can...otherwise take your pom poms and tout your feminazi wares elsewhere. Apologies...I needed a rant. Semper Fidelis

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  27. "In the group photo, I count 12 female guards and 4 male guards. About half of them appear to be NON-white, therefore not real Swedes from my perspective."

    The group photo has nothing to do with Karens work as prison guard. The picture is from her time as a student at Eastern Connecticut State University. The others in the photo is international students from around the world.

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