Friday, January 26, 2018

Tucker Carlson: America is not an idea

It doesn't get much better than this in the mainstream media. Tucker Carlson, on his Fox News show, took Senator Lindsey Graham to task for claiming that "America is an idea...not defined by its people but by its ideals."

Carlson rightly focused on the logic of this statement: that it means that the existing population does not constitute America, not by its efforts, talents or history, but that it can be swapped or replaced with little effect on what America is thought to be - a demoralising concept of nationhood.

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  1. The West including the US is a culture created by a specific people and it will be destroyed if that people is dispossessed.
    Europeans everywhere have the right to secure their homelands for themselves, without regard to claims others make upon it.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6pP8xBW0AAy6Hy.jpg


    This talk about “oppressed minorities” ignores the real disenfranchisement of the White majority, and denies us our
    right to survive in a world of our own

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  2. My reaction was a soft wow.

    Then, I thought; the fact that I'm somewhat wow'd, makes Carlson's superb but safe statement, this late in the game, this far down to near the end of the "path to national suicide", to minority white status in my own country, all the more grating and offensive.

    Carlson may even sincerely believe what he said. Let's see how he follows up on his own pithy soundbite. Let's see what comes of it.

    His statement was a profound existential call to action, or it was simply another rhetorical flourish for the entertainment of his stationary audience. Place your bets.

    He said nothing new, and nothing new will come of it. Check back next week.

    Carlson professionally uttering a simple truth, yet another is a long series of terrific statements to his faithful audience; that's been shouted by serious men who actually struggled against the irresistible force of modern liberalism, countless times before he was born, is nice. He's always a nice and very polite person.

    But it's useless, because he, nor anyone else will all-of-a-sudden do something new and different, something that no one has yet thought of, or will be willing to do. No one will come up with even a new way to talk modern liberals out of ridding their world of the lingering vestiges of destructive, evil white male authority.

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  3. From a transcript of a interview with Bill Kristol published today.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/bill-kristol-takes-on-fox-news-tucker-carlson.html

    Kristol: (...) I do feel now we're in a different world. I mean, now you look at — Tucker Carlson began at The Weekly Standard. Tucker Carlson was a great young reporter. He was one of the most gifted 24-year-olds I've seen in the 20 years that I edited the magazine. His copy was sort of perfect at age 24.
    He had always a little touch of Pat Buchananism, I would say, paleo-conservativism. But that's very different from what he's become now. I mean, it is close now to racism, white — I mean, I don't know if it's racism exactly — but ethno-nationalism of some kind, let's call it. A combination of dumbing down, as you said earlier, and stirring people's emotions in a very unhealthy way.

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    1. Interesting, isn't it? Carlson made a reasonable and well-stated criticism of the idea that America is not its people but an abstract idea, and Kristol comes back, not with arguments, but as a gatekeeper. I hope that Carlson ignores it and continues to focus on argument and logic - we'll see.

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  4. Brilliant comment from "Gastguma" on the original YouTube version:

    If America is just an idea, then there is no need for immigration. Ideas are not limited to geographic regions so, anyone, anywhere can embrace the idea of America and - voila! - they are in America. Instead of importing people, we can export the idea. Dreamers can be sent back to their birth nations and transform them into America by bringing the idea of America with them. We can deport Senator Graham to sub-Saharan Africa and he can change it into America with his idea.

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  5. I actually had Carlson's show on in the background as I was making dinner the evening this segment aired, and I had the same reaction as you--doing a double-take, thinking "am I actually hearing what I think I'm hearing? Someone on television is actually saying this?"

    Also, this occurred in the immediate wake of the news about President Trump saying "s**thole countries" in a meeting, which is what Senator Graham was responding to. This demonstrates that while we might hope that Trump was a bit more dignified, he has moved the Overton window on immigration, and that's more important than anything.

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  6. Even if it were an idea, ideas don't pop out of nowhere. They pop out of particular people, and are sustained (or destroyed) by a particular culture.

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