Friday, August 29, 2014

And now Hungary?

Things are interesting now in Hungary:
Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban on Monday lashed out against immigration, setting one of the main policy objectives of his next term in power after winning parliamentary elections in April. “The goal is to cease immigration whatsoever,” said Hungary’s prime minister. “I think the current liberal immigration policy, which is considered obvious and morally based, is hypocritical,” Mr. Orban said.

Orban urged, at a meeting of European PMs, that Europe set itself the aim of ceasing immigration. The response was mixed:
“There were two types of reactions: some envied me because they mustn’t say things like that although they’d very much like to. The others disagreed because they’ve failed to turn around demographic trends with family politics; have kept social tension at bay by subsidizing the jobless; and aren’t fazed if the ethnic basis of a nation state is broken,” Mr. Orban said.

Orban believes that European countries, instead of financing mass immigration, should boost development in the immigrants' home countries and focus on increasing the birth rate at home (he has five children himself).

Orban has introduced a number of measures to help boost the Hungarian birth rate, including an appeal to patriotism:
Another way the government means to boost newlyweds’ mood to make babies was the social ministry’s congratulation card, which couples received after state weddings. The card included quotes from Hungarian poets and the ministry promoting childbirth as a way to keep up the Hungarian nation.

“If your love for one another becomes the source of a new life, that’s the greatest gift to your family. A child is a blessing, and the pledge of survival of the family and our nation.”

I don't know a great deal about the politics of Orban or his party, but it's certainly worth watching the Hungarian situation for further developments.

10 comments:

  1. Orban's party, Fidesz, is essentially the center-right party of Hungary, it's main rival is not the discredited socialists, but the nationalists of Jobbik (not my cup of tea as they are pro-Islam).

    I rather like Orban, considering the criticism that the NYT, BBC give him, but I think he's just as cynical as Angela Merkel was in 2009 criticizing multicult.

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    1. Tim, could you explain why a Hungarian nationalist party would be pro-Islam? Are they really so paranoid about the remnants of Hungary's pitiful, fearful, powerless Jewish minority that they really see some sort of value in allying with Islamists?

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    2. these are only words, he and his party a moslem ass licking bastards, the president of the hungarian islamic society is a member of the party, they issued the azeri moslem to Azerbaijan, who beheaded a Christian Armenian in Hungary. The murderer was received as a hero in Azerbaijan and immediately freed and got cash rewards and got promoted, This certainly could be predicted. The Hungarian Islamic Society just now received a couple of schools and kindergartens to operate, where are just ordinary Hungarian kids, not muslims, ...they passed a law to sell citizenship for money....the most of the interested was from Iran...etc...etc....etc...
      Don't believe them. They are liars, they disguising as conservatives to get allies in the EU, but these are only words, they are political criminals and oligarches and making a cleptocracy, they are nihilists, the only what counts is the money and the power...and they are Antisemites

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  2. Does Hungary have an immigration problem? Or do they have an emigration problem - people leaving it?

    What do Romanian or Polish leaders say about so many of their folks departing for the UK?

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    1. Didn't they find that most Romanian people living in the UK were sending money home and planning to move back there.
      For many it is like working away from home in a mining town: better pay, but you're not staying.
      The governments of those countries must love it because it brings in easy money into the economy by way of exported labour.

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  3. Wonderful news from Europe at last. Orban's goals should be our goals too.

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  4. Do you think that eastern Europeans are in general less prone to the crippling white guilt that is slowly destroying the west?

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    1. I think so, but they are far more amenable to authoritarianism and corruption.

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  5. Mark, Are you following the Rotherham scandal here in the UK? A recently published report has revealed that the authorities in the small Yorkshire town covered up the mass abuse (abduction, sex trafficking, gang rape, torture) of 1400 white children by gangs of Pakistani Muslims for over 15 years, due to fears about political correctness and "maintaining community cohesion".

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/26/rotherham-sexual-abuse-children

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  6. Helmut Kohl said something similar and very sensible in the 90s. He stated that if he were the American president he would pick two large Latin American countries and bolter their development. This would act to help other countries in the hemisphere absorb immigrants and to hopefully relieve the amount of it.

    There is an environmental cost to just the movement itself, as well as financial and time costs. People are often emotionally attached to their homeland as well. So why is this movement t a new local with an alien language and culture seen as a net good for all involved?

    It is almost a child like view of the world where no reality is allowed. They really do resemble overgrown adolescents when you add in the unfetter sexualization of ordinary life such as business and neighborhood character.

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