Tuesday, August 09, 2011

The England riots


 Riots which began in the London suburb of Tottenham have now spread more widely throughout England. I was curious to learn more about Tottenham and had a look at the wikipedia entry. It seems to be a very diverse place:

Tottenham has a multicultural population, with many ethnic groups inhabiting the area. It contains one of the largest and most significant populations of African-Caribbean people. These were among the earliest immigrant groups to settle in the area, starting the UK's Windrush era. Soon after West African communities - notably the many Ghanaians - begun to migrate into the area. Between 1980 and the present day there has been a slow immigration of Colombians, Congolese, Albanian, Kurdish, Turkish-Cypriot, Turkish, Somalis, Irish, and Portuguese populations. South Tottenham is reported to be the most ethnically-diverse area in Europe, with up to 300 languages being spoken by its residents.

There is a crime problem:

Tottenham has been one of the main hotspots for gangs and gun crime in the United Kingdom during the past three decades. This followed the rise of gangs and drug wars throughout the area, notably those involving the Tottenham Mandem gang and various gangs from Hackney and all of the areas surrounding Tottenham, and the emergence of an organised crime ring known as the Turkish Mafia was said to have controlled more than 90% of the UK's heroin market.

Not a place I'd choose to raise a family in.

The riots have spread outside of London to places like Manchester. Which is curious given the story on the Manchester riot police from just a couple of months ago. A 51-year-old female officer was awarded £31,000 after failing to complete a shield run training exercise on time. It was claimed that she suffered "indirect discrimination" because as an older woman she wasn't able to keep to the established standards. She later passed the test when it was made easier for her.

I thought when I first read the story that it was a sign of the times in Britain that the riot squad was being organised to be non-discriminatory against older unfit women rather than to fulfil its proper purpose of keeping the streets in order. If it were me in charge, I'd be hiring young, physically intimidating males for the job. What if an event occurred in which it was important that every trained officer was able to fulfil the job to the highest level ... such as the riots that have been taking place for the past three nights.

What will British politicians do about the situation? Probably they'll try to buy off the "disaffected youth". But it won't work. There will be more trouble in the years to come.

44 comments:

  1. England is lost to us, it is firmly in Satan's kingdom. You can see that no amount of anarchy can move the ruling class to action to suppress a demonic rampage. There is a death sentence on the British middle class.

    Next up: will it be as hard to retake as the Muslim territories have been? What do you think the point of letting all the Muslims in has been, but to lock the UK into the devil's camp for ever.

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  2. Take away economic growth and entitlement benefits and what makes you think this wont happen in Australia?

    Britania, may she never be slain....

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  3. 90% of England is Indigenous.

    90% of the rioters are not.

    Reading the map of the riots is like reading a deomgraphic relief map of Afro-Carib immigration.

    Yet no-one will pay any attention to this. They will blame it on govt cutbacks and shove the problems under the carpet until next time.

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  4. " If it were me in charge, I'd be hiring young, physically intimidating males for the job. "

    I think it's more like the polices were hesitant to use their elite force to "repress" the riot, as they would probably be seen as the inhumane racist cops beating the innocent blacks on the streets on TV.

    Bottom line, everyone trying to be politically correct in Britain, neither cops nor news reporters would like to be seen "racist". So there goes all the story that keep their eyes closed on the racial factors behind this riot. This is really stupid as there was just this terrible incident in Norway and the leftists are doing the same thing again as if they were really provoking another easy-tempered lunatic to carry out another shooting spree. Vicious cycle begins again...

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  5. I enjoyed watching a live news feed from Enfield the town I also work in ,of a woman interviewing a white guy who's shop had been looted, he described the scene as 200 black youths looting and smashing everything and she told him "he could not say that", so he recanted and said 200 black youths and one white guy ME. I had to LOL at that one.

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  6. "What will British politicians do about the situation?" Just more oppressive laws, more globalisation, and more politically-correct rhetoric to avoid being honest enough about the obvious.

    The continuing destruction of England and its general social collapse shall - well - continue.

    One cannot disagree with the comments by The Continental Op and James; as they are both fairly accurate. (Although 90% of England's population is indigenous? Probably closer to 70%. But who knows? The Central Statistical Office apparently can't keep up with what is going on in the old country.)

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  7. ""Although 90% of England's population is indigenous?""

    Wikipedia, probably wrong.

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  8. May this catastrophe lead to the prompt and utter political annihilation of that contemptible chav, spiv, liar, loafer, fantasist, prostitute of the Murdoch empire, and all-round adolescent girlie coward David "Call Me Dave" Cameron.

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  9. James ; "Wikipedia. Probably wrong". More like their statistical information is out of date.

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  10. And to think that some people are stupid enough to imagine they need to waste good money at a movie theatre in order to see "Planet of the Apes"!

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  11. "I enjoyed watching a live news feed from Enfield the town I also work in ,of a woman interviewing a white guy who's shop had been looted, he described the scene as 200 black youths looting and smashing everything and she told him "he could not say that", so he recanted and said 200 black youths and one white guy ME. I had to LOL at that one."

    That sounds interesting, could you provide more information, or sources if possible, about that scene you described?

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  12. CNN is despicable like so many other news media outlets. I was going out of the hotel with my family and CNN was on talking about the riots. The presenter was a black American and he was talking about an eye-witness of an angry white man going after a black man, hurting him and calling him "nigger". The entire CNN coverage made it sound like these riots were perpetrated by "rednecks" and bigoted violent repressive regressive middle class whites against the poor innocent "minorities". As if the middle class whites and the religious were destroying the place, looting and indeed the cause for the rioting. In reality most of the ones responsible for the riots were immigrants and minorities with some lower-class whites assimilated to minority norms. Truly Orwellian.

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  13. The picture is of a furniture store on fire in Croydon, south London, quite near where I live. Not Tottenham.

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  14. Tottenham is one of the most dangerous areas in the UK. I would say it's probably one of 3 places where there is a chance of being shot (not something I'd worry about most places lol).

    I read the other day that 2,000 young black youths had marched to Scotland Yard a few months ago to do a peaceful protest about stop and search being too much, but they didn't get any media coverage at all for the protest. And when they started rioting they were saying at the beginning 'well you're talking about us now'.

    I really don't know if it's true haven't researched yet.

    But the way the rioting has spread, it's not a black urban youth thing they're all over. It's way past that. Not just tottenham or Manchester (though I'm not sure what the black population is there). Croydon, Bromley, Epsom even Gloucester for god's sake. Scum.

    What 50 years ago used to be the white working classes haven't done any work for a long time.

    One could try and blame it on government cutbacks but these louts were born and bred under Labour.

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  15. England has been of the devil's kingdom since the 16th century when the degenerate Henry VIII broke with the Church so he could gratify himself without restraint. It could well be that everything now taking place there is permitted by God as a punishment for all the misery that protestant-masonic England inflicted on the Catholic peoples of Ireland, Spain, Poland & Austria-Hungary among others. The only cure is a return, en masse of the entire nation to the Holy Catholic Faith, & that all would do penance as the King & people of Nineve did after hearing the preaching of Jonas. That is however impossible humanly speaking. The majority now are neo-pagans who have adopted a Pilate-like attitude to truth. Then there's the fact that the Church is currently suffering grievously from the infiltration of the agents of Judeo-Masonry with the result that many Churchmen are no more working for the advancement of the Kingdom of God than the pagans themselves are. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

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  16. In reality most of the ones responsible for the riots were immigrants and minorities with some lower-class whites assimilated to minority norms.

    From what I've seen that would describe well the first couple of nights of rioting. There were a few white faces amongst the looters.

    The liberal political class in Britain seems so clueless. They've imported a black underclass, whilst at the same time encouraging the growth of a native white one. And what's to stop the white one, as Elizabeth puts it, "becoming assmilated to minority norms"?

    Here's an example of how rotten things are in England. A jobless man named Jamie Cumming has just fathered his 15th child to 13 different women. He doesn't work to support any of them. He doesn't even hang around to father any of them.

    So just one underclass man has created 13 ticking underclass time bombs. And the whole thing is propped up by the liberal state.

    Meanwhile middle-class families are unlikely to have more than one or two children, with something like 40% of well-educated women over the age of 35 having no children at all.

    Liberals just don't seem to get what the long term consequences of such a state of affairs is likely to be. Perhaps because they've tagged whites as "dominant oppressors" they are blinded to the possibility of the decline of white society as the middle-class shrinks and the underclass grows.

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  17. Nobody has mentioned what is an extremely obvious 700-pound gorilla in the room (and no, I don't mean Oprah): the confiscation, by the traitors Major and Blair (not to mention John Howard in this country), of law-abiding citizens' private guns. Which meant, in practice, white citizens' private guns.

    Of course, the, uh, melanin-advantaged weren't inconvenienced in the slightest degree by such totalitarian legislation.

    Fortunately we now have a word in the language which has not only raised the stakes of sociological discourse, but is calculated to strike terror into any liberal heart. That word is "Breivik."

    Squalid poltroons like Cameron must be made to realise that any failure to impose martial law - and, down the line, capital punishment - against the animals responsible for the latest antics will be punished by the emergence of a white avenger who will make Utoya Island look like a nuns' tea party.

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  18. England will be remade in the image of Franco's Spain or England will not be at all.

    Come on English Catholics, stop being such big girls' blouses. Leave genteel gutlessness to Rowan the Druid. It is your duty to fight against Satan's bestial emissaries - whether negroid or not - and, if necessary, die in order for England to be what she was before Henry VIII's Stalinist regime: Mary's Dowry.

    Anonymous 5:49 is right. Anglicanism, whatever temporary usefulness it might once have had as a means of crowd-control against the Cromwellian chimpanzees of old, is now a busted flush.

    And the post-Vatican-II girl-church which occupies most of the real estate and which calls itself "Catholic" is DEAD. Got that? Dead. The riots merely finished it off. The sodomite scandals did most of the damage.

    English Catholics, if you don't rise up and fight - selling your lives, if you must sell them, as dearly as possible - then all the martyrs of Tyburn will be ashamed of you. Assuming they're not already.

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  19. I wrote the following eyewitness report on London approximately 18 months ago, and it was published in the States during mid-2010. The current Hobbesian state of Britain's largest cities has caused me to re-read what I wrote. On thus re-reading it, I find that my solitary regret is that I did not make my verdict 10 times harsher still:

    http://rjstove.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/article_2010_chronicles_In_Darkest_London.pdf

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  20. Anonymous and L Crane, you remind me of the Trad Catholic brothers in Camp of the Saints.

    Your English Franco existed, and his name was Moseley. If the English deserved another, they'd get him.

    I was talking to an English co-worker today, and he was blaming the riots on white trash. No joke. When I said England has a history of race riots, he thought I was talking about "white supremacists".

    When you look at the footage of blacks looting and whites cleaning up, nothing could be clearer. It's like white Britons are saying, "Ok, have your riot, just make sure you tidy up afterwards! You won't? Ok, FINE...

    May the riots continue until a new army of Blackshirts rises up to stop them, and...

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  21. @theslittyeye
    Below is a link to the youtube clip mentioned earlier in the comments section, in which a female reporter goes to extraordinary lengths to prevent the interviewee, a shop owner, from committing a thought crime.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzbZrUdfEg&feature=player_embedded

    It runs for less than a minute, but manages in that time to capture the very essence of why Great Britain is no longer great.

    Simone

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  22. I regard being compared with The Camp of the Saints as a badge of merit, whether or not such a comparison is intended to be complimentary.

    Mosley (note the correct spelling) was in adult life - as his autobiography indicates - a pagan of Nietzschean propensities, despite his mildly Anglican childhood. I fail to see the relevance of Mosley to the re-Catholicisation of England, this re-Catholicisation being the only alternative to the negrification and Islamicisation of England, since England's white Protestants and England's white heathens alike are busy aborting and contracepting themselves to death.

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  23. @L.Crane:

    ...And what re-Catholicisation has to do with the England riots, I fail to see.

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  24. Jal,

    I disagree. I don't think we need something like the blackshirts.

    For 50 years or more liberals have been free to do as they liked with very little real opposition.

    The consequences of liberal policies are starting to bite hard. There is going to be a real opportunity to persuade people that liberalism leads to destructive outcomes.

    We should take our stance as the everyday defenders of tradition and civilisation. As ordinary people with the vigour and the clarity of mind to challenge a damaging ideology and moribund institutions.

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  25. This is the URL for the video of the bloke who tries to convince a BBC lady reporter that all the looters in his store were black. And she tries to convince him that they were not despite of course not actually witnessing anything at all and accusing him of "Stereotyping".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzbZrUdfEg&feature=player_embedded

    ""Of course, the, uh, melanin-advantaged weren't inconvenienced in the slightest degree by such totalitarian legislation.""

    That is BS.

    While as the Majority indigenous English were the main victims of these riots small business owners in not so nice areas of London tend to be fairly "melanin advantaged". South Asians and Blacks tend not to get along all that well in Brummie or London. The Blacks and whites get along a hell of a lot better than the Blacks and Pakistanis.

    In the 1992 LA riots the fact that the Koreans had guns was the only thing that saved Koreatown.

    The Majority of rioters in London were Afro-Caribbean, the media wants to cover this fact up.

    Many of the victims were non-indigenous, all out of proportion to population size because they live right next to the black areas and run small businesses in those areas [no-one else wants to].

    I actually cracked a smile when I saw the Turks and Kurds in North London and the Sikhs in Southall coming out to defend their areas. THAT is traditionalism in practice.

    I cracked a bigger smile when I saw the pictures and videos of English blokes doing the same.

    Of course the police who ran away from black rioters immediately kettled the Indigenous folks in Eltham [London] when they came out to STOP the rioters.

    For police, keeping peaceful pale skinned people from defending their area is far more important than stopping dusky rioters.

    Also despite the video coverage from phones, youtube and the media showing vast majority Black crowds, those charged in the morning seemed about 50-50.

    Looks like the coppers picked up the chancers following the main groups of rioters without confronting the main bodies of "Angry youths".

    Surprise surprise.

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  26. I cracked a bigger smile when I saw the pictures and videos of English blokes doing the same.

    Of course the police who ran away from black rioters immediately kettled the Indigenous folks in Eltham [London] when they came out to STOP the rioters.

    For police, keeping peaceful pale skinned people from defending their area is far more important than stopping dusky rioters.


    James, I had exactly the same thoughts.

    The police in London apparently were ordered to stand by whilst looting was taking place. Then when Sikhs and others came out to defend their areas they were praised in the media. But when a group of whites gathered to do the same, the police commissioner chose to focus on this as the danger.

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  27. It is perhaps worth noting that Mosley, when he came to write his memoir, regretted ever having devised the black shirt at all. We have further confirmation of Mosley's regret in this area from the recollections of Alfonso XIII's biographer Sir Charles Petrie (A Historian Looks At His World, 1972).

    Petrie was one of those - like Sir Harold Nicolson, the poet J.C. Squire, the novelist Francis Yeats-Brown, and almost everyone in 1930s England to the right of Trotsky - who viewed Sir Oswald with good will at first, but who soon fell away from him. Some primarily resented Mosley's refusal to take unwelcome advice; some were nauseated by his constant condition of pathological rut, a condition which, in all conscience, can seldom flourish undeterred outside either a zoo or an Australian academic simulacrum thereof.

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  28. Just saw this blog post at the VERY establishment Telegraph site and I think someone is stealing ya ideas Mark!

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100100485/the-riots-remind-us-that-polygamous-societies-are-naturally-violent/

    Read through it. Could almost be lifted from your site word for word.

    Cheers from the UK.

    Goff

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  29. An interesting comment at the Telegraph:

    david_sparks
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    To all those BNP/EDL talking about 'revenge'....

    Thick shaven-headed tattooed thugs roaming the streets. That's the last thing most of us want, and was specifically condemned by the police superintendent on the radio today - he was talking about "groups of right-wing thugs who looked like they had just come from the nearest football ground".

    I'm not sure how you're achieving 'revenge' on all the white rioters and looters, or addressing the fact that many of the shopkeepers who've lost everything are Asian, Turkish or black.

    ...

    I don't know if what he said was true, that is if it is what the superintendent said. But it does seem in line with the prejudices of the police and the authorities in general.

    Where are the reports of equally senior police officers, or any police officers, going on radio to denounce non-White defenders of their communities, such as Turks, in terms as politicized and hostile as "groups of right-wing thugs who looked like they had just come from the nearest football ground"? I can't find any. Can anyone else?

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  30. "For 50 years or more liberals have been free to do as they liked with very little real opposition."

    That's right, of course. But don't these riots show that there's now no peaceful way back? That was my point. I'm not really talking about shirts, black or otherwise. I' talking about self defense.

    However, "For police, keeping peaceful pale skinned people from defending their area is far more important than stopping dusky rioters."

    And something similar could be said of the media. The ABC news coverage last night was praising the Sikhs and what-have-you, while the "far-right" EDL were made to sould like opportunits for getting involved.

    Maybe there are BNP community defenders on every corner and we just don't hear about it?!

    No, I don't think so, because of the 50 year-old encrustation of false consciousness. Things will have to get very bad before the English or the West in general learns to fight back, to take its own side.

    I'm not trying to be perverse here, just pointing out that it was always going to take "rivers of blood" for people to wise up.

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  31. It's a bit different the way the Sikhs held off Southall the other night and the way the EDL were in Eltham a couple of nights later. Millwall fans and EDL beered up is not the sort of Englishness I'm proud of. Are you?

    Meanwhile the good burghers of Clapham were locked up safely in their houses tweeting away. Never mind, they got their brooms out the next morning. Pathetic.

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  32. James:
    "This is the URL for the video of the bloke who tries to convince a BBC lady reporter that all the looters in his store were black. And she tries to convince him that they were not despite of course not actually witnessing anything at all and accusing him of "Stereotyping".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzbZrUdfEg&feature=player_embedded"

    The idiot woman in the video is a senior reporter for Sky News, not the BBC. The BBC are generally smarter and subtler than that. She has the misfortune of being 'lumpen intelligentsia', consigned to enforce the orthodoxy without really understanding it.

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  33. "Encrustation of false consciousness" is Marxist cant. Anyone who wants to be taken seriously is required to cease and desist from such cant.

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  34. James, you accuse me of talking "BS". This accusation is not only vulgar, it is a defamatory lie, though doubtless it makes you feel better to indulge girlie delusions of white-black solidarity against Pakistanis. Mr Richardson really needs to start monitoring his website's combox properly. Now.

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  35. Women are not suitable for preventing riots even they are young. If women are going to fight with rebels that kind of women are baneful too. Only men can fight with male rioters.

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  36. Goff,

    Very interesting link, thanks. Kudos to the author of that piece - he looks at the big picture in a useful way.

    And he's not alone. The riots have really pressed home for some people in the political class the problem of having fatherless families on such a large scale (reportedly almost 70% in Tottenham).

    It shows how there continue to be waves of opportunity for traditionalists to make our case. If we can continue to develop our political influence, then we'll be better able to start catching these waves.

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  37. Millwall fans and EDL beered up is not the sort of Englishness I'm proud of. Are you?

    Lily, I live in an Eltham on the opposite side of the world, so it's difficult for me to judge what kind of men turned out and whether they were beered up or not.

    I'll say this, though. I cringed when I saw that photo of an Englishman surrendering his shoes, his shirt and finally his pants to a black standover guy at the start of the riots.

    Surely that's not an image of Englishness to be proud of either.

    I don't want ordinary Englishmen to blindly lash out in response. I'd be proudest if they committed to building up a serious political alternative to the reigning liberalism.

    But if I had to choose between the lone Englishman handing over his clothes and a group of working-class Englishmen gathering in numbers to defend their suburb - I know what I'd go with.

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  38. I cringed when I saw that photo of an Englishman surrendering his shoes, his shirt and finally his pants to a black standover guy at the start of the riots.

    I have never been so ashamed to be English as when I saw that picture. Compounding the shame was the utterly contemptible cringing weakness of the government.

    There is much more to be proud of in "beered up" EDL. At least they had some balls.

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  39. ""Millwall fans and EDL beered up is not the sort of Englishness I'm proud of. Are you?""

    I am not English, but if I was I would be proud of the EDL lads far more than the cowards who try to excuse the violence.

    The Archers at Agincourt were probably a little drunk as well. As are most men when they have to go and put their own bodies on the line.

    Girlies don't seem to respect the sacrifices men have made across the ages. So I can understand your ignorance.

    ""it makes you feel better to indulge girlie delusions of white-black solidarity against Pakistanis.""

    The idea of black-white solidarity shows me that the areas with crap everything have crap people in them who like breaking things.

    In Melbourne's west the Pacific islanders and Aussies usually gang up to defend themselves against Asians and Africans. I am working off these assumptions as well as my own experience of London.

    Blacks and whites in London Do NOT always get along. They tend to get along a hell of a lot better than Blacks and Pakistanis do.

    If you cannot see this, then you are being blinded by ideology, have fun with that.

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  40. Pakistanis and Indians Jailed for Starting Birmingham Riots

    http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2011/08/11/saltley-man-first-to-be-jailed-for-birmingham-riots-full-court-report-from-first-day-of-prosecutions-97319-29216078/




    John Derbyshire estimates that blacks comprise about 2% of the British population but 60 - 70% of the rioters.



    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/274226/epitaph-britain-john-derbyshire#



    ...

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  41. "Never mind, they got their brooms out the next morning."

    Of course from the right-on lefty perspective they went out to "enact the closest thing to popular fascism that we have seen on the streets of certain ‘leafy’ bits of London for years."

    How dare the "bourgeoisie" clean up the wreckage left of their neighbourhood without considering the feelings of the poor oppressed rioters.

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  42. Kendall, thanks.

    I found another radical left-wing site claiming the same thing. I've added the information to a post.

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