tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post88685122346672545..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Standards & the liberal formulaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-9684946708559816662018-11-09T09:06:56.357+11:002018-11-09T09:06:56.357+11:00The traditions of civilised people obviously. The traditions of civilised people obviously. Roland S Hornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-57088191927376769662018-11-08T06:51:31.404+11:002018-11-08T06:51:31.404+11:00Whose traditional ways of doing things?
What ab...Whose traditional ways of doing things? <br /><br />What about all of the others' traditional ways of doing things?<br /><br />Australia's indigenous people live in reserves, as do the Native Americans who also artificially maintain their traditions as if they're staged in a museum. I imagine a day when Tradcons will live in reserves (if they don't already), being studied by anthropologists from the government social services bureau. Nostalgia tours. <br /><br />When the concept itself - traditonalism - is tagged onto every notion of what used to be, it's too late. Traditional this and that. Traditionalism is all ready so broad a subset of culture and politics, that it's use is a clear identifier of something clearly in the past and long lost to a people. <br />Buck Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-84930888327928652102018-10-30T10:55:20.307+11:002018-10-30T10:55:20.307+11:00When liberalism was first being developed it sound...<em>When liberalism was first being developed it sounded good</em><br /><br />Every ideology sounds good when someone first thinks of it. Every ideology works perfectly in theory. Communism sounds fabulous in theory. Even libertarianism, the most insane of all ideologies, probably sounded good at first.<br /><br />The trouble with liberalism is that like all ideologies it's theory-based. If the facts are at variance with the theory then the facts must be changed. All theory-based ideologies are fatally flawed right from the beginning.<br /><br />That's why traditional ways of doing things are better. They're experience-based and reality-based rather than theory-based.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-16118670044937517802018-10-30T00:03:49.504+11:002018-10-30T00:03:49.504+11:00That's a really good question. The problem is ...That's a really good question. The problem is that the anthropology of liberalism, its understanding of man & society, was deeply flawed at the beginning (say, with Hobbes). The idea of man starting out solitary and then making a social contract (man and state) is artificial - a truer anthropology would be more organic than this, with at least some forms of human community being present from the beginning.<br /><br />Still, it might be possible to make an argument that if liberalism had a stopping point it would not have used up all the social capital it inherited from pre-liberal traditions and so might have had a longer lifespan. Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-23705442364699652982018-10-29T23:46:26.970+11:002018-10-29T23:46:26.970+11:00When liberalism was first being developed it sound...When liberalism was first being developed it sounded good. Do you think there is some early point in liberal development when it was a good thing but the idea is that we mustn't go down that road because there is no logical stopping point?RobertBrandywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661602554300651862noreply@blogger.com