tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post8539867968471057862..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Repression, DV & the Freudian leftUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-74930292427865286582023-01-03T16:45:54.206+11:002023-01-03T16:45:54.206+11:00Thinking more about it, I have to wonder if demand...Thinking more about it, I have to wonder if demands like those of Ms. Watkins aren’t simply misdirected demands for more male affection. If women aren’t interested in “negative” expressions like the admission of weakness or vulnerability but yet demand increased expression, it follows that what they really mean is increased positive expression, which seems not unlikely to specifically be increased overt affection from men. Given your previous posts filled with confessions of a percieved lack of proper male affection, I would say this seems plausible, even probable.Guest Ghastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-45308419233773830002023-01-03T07:45:00.667+11:002023-01-03T07:45:00.667+11:00My own experience is much the same. The conclusion...My own experience is much the same. The conclusion I drew is that it is better to voice concerns or worries with a parent, sibling or friend rather than with a wife/girlfriend. Boys are being taught the opposite, that they should communicate vulnerabilities - I suspect that many will learn the hard way that this sometimes triggers a loss of attraction.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-73889812970927046662023-01-03T07:44:26.596+11:002023-01-03T07:44:26.596+11:00I don’t care what you believe. It’s well document...I don’t care what you believe. It’s well documented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-70300322566776120642023-01-03T04:32:04.540+11:002023-01-03T04:32:04.540+11:00I should clarify that the expressions were as ofte...I should clarify that the expressions were as often non-romantic as romantic. While appearing overly interested is a well-known turn-off, as often in not in my cases I had to learn that women were not interested in or attracted to being privy to my (non-woman-related) most private worries and concerns. Contrary to Ms. Watkins’ advice (or, perhaps, in accord with her testimony), my life was not improved very much at all by overt expressions of my interior emotional life. For all that they might encourage it, women like Ms. Watkins are just not that interested in how men actually feel and at least as often as not will cause men grief (such by scorn or loss of interest) over it. They simply do not really want or care to know. If I might say it, women in my experience are much more attracted to the stoic and impenetrable man that Ms. Watkins derides than men who are (femininely, perhaps) open and overt about their feelings (especially “negative” ones, such as worry about the future), no matter how much they might bemoan said impenetrability.Guest Ghastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-88581741139202138002023-01-02T19:44:36.510+11:002023-01-02T19:44:36.510+11:00"A man with no capability of violence or will..."A man with no capability of violence or willingness to ever employ it wouldn’t be a wholly masculine man." One of the things it is difficult now to acknowledge is that women partly judge men on the basis of a perceived ability to physically defend them in a fight - a primal instinct, no doubt, but it still exists. <br />"I also had repeated experiences of women losing what attraction they had to me after sharing how I felt". Yes, this is a tough one. A woman might lose attraction if you share a concern/anxiety; and it is definitely possible to express too much interest/admiration (and yet in some moods women might yearn for gestures of masculine affection). I think this is part of the reason why red pill sites advise young men to have a mission outside of the relationship. I suspect that the women who are most primed for relationships (who are in the secure attachment category) are not at the more difficult end when it comes to all this.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-39166843357340487892023-01-02T15:52:18.461+11:002023-01-02T15:52:18.461+11:00Four points:
1. If the way men currently are caus...Four points:<br /><br />1. If the way men currently are causes violence, why are they trying to make women more like men? (Rhetorical; they are incoherent).<br /><br />2. This theory denies the importance violence and ability to inflict violence has to masculinity. A man with no capability of violence or willingness to ever employ it wouldn’t be a wholly masculine man.<br /><br />3. Beating a dead horse, here, but of course the liberal anti-culture of our present times is, shall we say, highly unlikely to create environments favorable to hale emotional lives.<br /><br />4. It’s rather bizarre to claim men do not have particularly rich and deeply felt emotional lives in an age when access to male emotional expression has never been easier. Men often put very private and personal glimpses of their internal emotional lives all over the internet; and at the very least it is easy to see in, say, the “Literally Me” movie phenomenon that there is *something* that very deeply resonates with men emotionally about many movies.<br /><br />Separately and on a more personal note, I’ve had contrary experiences to what this model would suggest. As a kid I was more along the lines of what they claim to want, but my emotional expressions were never recieved positively. I had to learn myself over many years to be circumspect about what I express and to whom. I also had repeated experiences of women losing what attraction they had to me after sharing how I felt (in fact, later in my life the woman who was most overtly attracted to me admitted to me that the primary quality I possessed that she found attractive was that I did not seem to care). I suspect this might be different with faithful, God-fearing women, but that’s really just a hunch.<br /><br />At any rate, what I was taught was quite contrary to what was good for me. I would defy any of these types to show a genuine and well-meaning interest in the male emotional expression they keep trying to promote. Currently the combination of teaching men that they ought to express themselves and then emotionally punishing them for it could almost be called abusive. (But then a core teaching they seem to be going in for nowadays is that you ought to keep doing the right thing, as defined by them, no matter how much it harms and hurts you; maybe they’ve given up pretending it’ll be to your benefit at all).Guest Ghastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12915526013181824002023-01-02T11:50:43.843+11:002023-01-02T11:50:43.843+11:00Anon, sorry but I don't believe your statistic...Anon, sorry but I don't believe your statistics. We need to be careful using statistics on this issue because it is so heavily politicised. That's why I deliberately used the NSW police ones - as they simply record against which sex a domestic violence charge was proceeded with. Nor do we need to prove that domestic violence is mostly initiated by women - the narrative falls even if, as the NSW figures indicate, at least 30% of domestic violence is perpetrated by women.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-34304545212478441612023-01-02T11:40:35.534+11:002023-01-02T11:40:35.534+11:0070% of domestic violence is female-on-female.
100...70% of domestic violence is female-on-female.<br /><br />100% of domestic violence is started by the female.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com