tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post827158147889841498..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Why did Luhrmann make Australia?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-71756686109210614502021-03-06T14:31:21.712+11:002021-03-06T14:31:21.712+11:00I thought Strictly Ballroom was pretty awesome. I...I thought Strictly Ballroom was pretty awesome. I was living in Atlanta and my downstairs neighbor nurse ("friends, but flirting) watched it with me. Afterwards, she literally put me down on the coach and screwed me. So it got her motor running. Well, I mean she liked me too. But then watching a movie like that, got her going at the same time.<br /><br />I remember backpacking around Australia in early 90s after getting out of the Navy. Had 90 days of leave saved up from the Gulf War. (Thanks for coming by the way...you guys come to all our wars.) What a cool country. There is actually a fucking town called Surfer's Paradise. Like that's its name. Had a great time on the East Coast. Found the English girls on holiday much easier/friendlier than the Aussies ladies though. The Aussie girls had their defenses up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-76098611077722842752008-12-13T00:09:00.000+11:002008-12-13T00:09:00.000+11:00The piece is now outdated in one respect: after it...<I>The piece is now outdated in one respect: after its publication I met Professor Fraser, whom I had never met at the time I wrote it.</I><BR/><BR/>I always felt that Fraser made a grave mistake concentrating so much on IQ and race. It essentially gave the MSM a license to paint him as some kind of white supremacist.<BR/><BR/>Focusing more on the gradual dispossession of Anglo-Celtic Australians as a result of massive non-European immigration would have been a far more effective way to convey his message.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-54872064047384419952008-12-12T23:51:00.000+11:002008-12-12T23:51:00.000+11:00Perhaps I have been too hard on Quadrant and Winds...Perhaps I have been too hard on <I>Quadrant</I> and Windschuttle. But my hostility is not without reason. Rather it stems from a profound frustration with what can perhaps be described as their intellectual blind spot regarding all issues involving the "national question."<BR/><BR/>Windschuttle's <I>The Fabrication of Aborginal History</I> is a refreshingly honest piece of work and nobody can deny the man's intellectual incisiveness. That's why I find his <A HREF="http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/09/keith_windschut.php" REL="nofollow">denial</A> that the White Australia Policy was, in his own words, "an expression of British race nationalism" so difficult to understand.<BR/><BR/>I believe Windschuttle to be, at base, an honest and morally upright individual. And he is certainly not the type to shy away from taking controversial, politically incorrect stances. So that leaves me with no other option that to conclude that he honestly regards the Australian nation to a propositional civic construct, bound by institutions and values, rather than an organic community defined by shared culture, ancestry, language, and history.<BR/><BR/>I regard this to be an intellectual failure on his behalf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-30790155512985971202008-12-07T23:08:00.000+11:002008-12-07T23:08:00.000+11:00Thanks again, R. Drabik, for more kind words. I di...Thanks again, R. Drabik, for more kind words. I didn't even know that the article of mine to which you link was available on the Internet. It wasn't available the last time I looked. Whatever the situation in 2008, the magazine in question seemed receptive enough in 2006 to what I had to say (I'm a Steve-Sailer-style white conservative, not a white nationalist). The piece is now outdated in one respect: after its publication I met Professor Fraser, whom I had never met at the time I wrote it. <BR/><BR/>About Mr Windschuttle's recent utterances and <I>Quadrant</I> editorship, which have repeatedly disappointed me, I have my own theories. I suspect (without being able to prove) that their shortcomings spring from a moral, rather than from an intellectual, failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-91819223878046686752008-12-07T20:29:00.000+11:002008-12-07T20:29:00.000+11:00I honestly don't bother with Quadrant anymore. It ...I honestly don't bother with <I>Quadrant</I> anymore. It is neither intellectually stimulating nor relevant. I also have little time for Keith Windschuttle, especially not after his snearing dismissal of Professor Andrew Fraser's valid <A HREF="http://www.vdare.com/misc/050926_fraser.htm" REL="nofollow">criticisms</A> of Windschuttle's <I>The White Australia Policy</I> (Mr. Stove wrote an excellent article chronicling the Windschuttle-Fraser debate, entitled <A HREF="http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com/archives/vol5no4/Stove.pdf" REL="nofollow">"Who Owns White Australia?"</A>).<BR/><BR/><I>National Observer</I> is probably the only thing published in Australia that is still worth reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-54931359454629882672008-12-07T07:57:00.000+11:002008-12-07T07:57:00.000+11:00Kilroy, I've never read anything antisemitic in Th...Kilroy, I've never read anything antisemitic in The Independent Australian.<BR/><BR/>It's not a magazine which discusses theory much. There are articles though criticising current immigration policies and multiculturalism. One of my articles on whiteness studies was also published there.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-16495744408182258652008-12-07T05:32:00.000+11:002008-12-07T05:32:00.000+11:00Speaking of Sam Francis, the article which inspire...Speaking of Sam Francis, the article which inspired Mr Stove's tribute - Peter Kocan's review of <A HREF="http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Paleo+persuasions.-a0185821381" REL="nofollow">Shots Fired: Sam Francis on America's Culture War</A> is unavailable on Quadrant's free online section although Hal G.P. Colebatch's review of John Hyde's lame doggerel is available. It's marvelous editorial decisions like that which make Australian Conservatism what it is today.Mercurius Aulicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130901970855873480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-28771911260893577052008-12-05T17:10:00.000+11:002008-12-05T17:10:00.000+11:00Hmmm, somehow I always had the impression that The...<I>Hmmm, somehow I always had the impression that The Independent Australian was an anti-Semitic magazine like The Occidental Quarterly...</I><BR/><BR/>What gave you that impression?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-89514930050422054022008-12-05T16:56:00.000+11:002008-12-05T16:56:00.000+11:00Thank you, R. Drabik, for your kind words. Yes, I ...Thank you, R. Drabik, for your kind words. Yes, I greatly admired Sam Francis even when I didn't agree with him. He was, apart from anything else, not only courageous but a master stylist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-61815096979626049592008-12-05T09:37:00.000+11:002008-12-05T09:37:00.000+11:00Hmmm, somehow I always had the impression that The...Hmmm, somehow I always had the impression that <I>The Independent Australian</I> was an anti-Semitic magazine like <I>The Occidental Quarterly</I>...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-90664964776465194292008-12-04T23:41:00.000+11:002008-12-04T23:41:00.000+11:00Mr. Stove,As a fellow antipodean, let me just say,...Mr. Stove,<BR/><BR/>As a fellow antipodean, let me just say, I was also a fan of the late <A HREF="http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/sam_francis_me/" REL="nofollow">Sam Francis</A> - even if he didn't have any interest whatsoever in Australia!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-52456576920921372502008-12-03T17:51:00.000+11:002008-12-03T17:51:00.000+11:00I received my copy of The Independent Australian j...I received my copy of <I>The Independent Australian</I> just last week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-19692733314032396542008-12-03T05:27:00.000+11:002008-12-03T05:27:00.000+11:00Anon, I did receive a copy of the magazine not so ...Anon, I did receive a copy of the magazine not so long ago, so it's still being published.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it's a worthwhile venture. I expect the problem you refer to comes down to a lack of resources.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-50354540621529338702008-12-02T23:14:00.000+11:002008-12-02T23:14:00.000+11:00I don't know whether "Baz" likes it off-side - but...I don't know whether "Baz" likes it off-side - but this chap I once knew that worked at NAIDA told me he was so inclined...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-25388635652686903772008-12-02T20:44:00.000+11:002008-12-02T20:44:00.000+11:00On a completely unrelated note:Mark, what's going ...On a completely unrelated note:<BR/><BR/>Mark, what's going on with <A HREF="http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/" REL="nofollow"><I>The Independent Australian</I></A> website?<BR/><BR/>It hasn't been updated for some time.<BR/><BR/>I think this magazine has plenty of potential as an outlet for politically incorrect commentary and ideas - if only they got their act together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-71073527649841855632008-12-02T12:27:00.000+11:002008-12-02T12:27:00.000+11:00Note Luhrmann's recent comment that, had he grown ...Note Luhrmann's recent comment that, had he grown up in Australia, Barack Obama would have been seized by the government for being a black child.<BR/><BR/>Ignoring that his birth father was not an American nor by extension would have hypothetically been an indigenous Australian. And ignoring that his mother and her family seem to have done a pretty good job of raising Obama - without risk of a toxic family situation requiring child protection intervention.<BR/><BR/>Nope - the chorus goes up - part black kid, off to the re-education camp.<BR/><BR/>I put this down in part to the ongoing cultural cringe of the Australian academia/arts/media elite. <BR/><BR/>They didn't have the anti-apartheid battles in South Africa; the civil rights campaigns in the US; the Solidarity fight in Poland or other deeply contested civil rights campaigns to claim as part of their cultural identity.<BR/><BR/>So they pat each other on the back and go overseas to proclaim to the world that, somehow, they are the heroic resistance fighters in a regime so evil it makes Hitler's Reich pale by comparison. <BR/><BR/>I mean, god forbid they could just sit in their parlors and seminars and say "Yup - up until the first mining boom and the Boeing 747 appeared, Australia was a bit monotone and unremarkably boring". <BR/><BR/>Whether you agree with their campaigns or not - other countries have icons of the likes of Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Alexander Solzhenitsyn. <BR/><BR/>The Australian radical Left has Germaine Greer, John Pilger and Clive Hamilton. No wonder the Luhrmann's live in a world of fantasy. It's just embarrassing.Myrddin Serenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317977669677726888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-27252185917381831472008-12-01T23:29:00.000+11:002008-12-01T23:29:00.000+11:00They thought only 3 people would watch it?Sounds l...They thought only 3 people would watch it?<BR/><BR/>Sounds like they aren't doing much better than that anyway.<BR/><BR/>It's a bomb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-24512494840795898962008-12-01T23:10:00.000+11:002008-12-01T23:10:00.000+11:00This has got to be the worst movie I have ever see...This has got to be the worst movie I have ever seen.<BR/><BR/>I was watching a free bootleg copy and i STILL wanted my money backAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-49294236673856116132008-12-01T21:17:00.000+11:002008-12-01T21:17:00.000+11:00The movie is going to be a flop. This sort of shit...The movie is going to be a flop. This sort of shit always is.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-26082940707123909972008-11-30T08:22:00.000+11:002008-11-30T08:22:00.000+11:00Kilroy, is he homosexual? His interviews leave thi...Kilroy, is he homosexual? His interviews leave this unclear:<BR/><BR/>"Is Baz Luhrmann the gayest straight man alive? "Well, I'm not sure how straight I am," cracks the Australian director of Strictly Ballroom, William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet, and the multi-Oscar-nominated Moulin Rouge. Luhrmann may be married to his production designer, Catherine Martin, but the devout bohemian in him steadfastly refuses to be compartmentalized."<BR/><BR/>Kilroy, although I agree with you that homosexuals can see themselves as dissenting outsiders, Luhrmann's film could have been made by any one of a large number of people on the left.<BR/><BR/>For instance, I notice that he has chosen to portray the Aboriginal characters as having magical, mystical powers.<BR/><BR/>Even a dour politics professor like Robert Manne has done the same unusual thing, <A HREF="http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2007/08/enchanted-world-for-them-not-us.html" REL="nofollow">praising</A> traditional Aborigines for creating a world "soaked in magic, sorcery, mystery and ritual".<BR/><BR/>Now there's something going on when members of the left praise something in a minority group that they would condemn in their own mainstream.<BR/><BR/>Do they want to prove how open to the oppressed "other" they are, by portraying the other as something wholly outside Western norms?<BR/><BR/>Or is it that it's a way of asserting their dissenting status within the West, by so admiring and identifying with something so wholly outside Western norms?<BR/><BR/>Or is it, as others have claimed, a turning to the "other" to fill a cultural and spiritual hole left empty by the modern liberal West, whilst still holding on to their liberalism?Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-54922377395112506992008-11-30T01:35:00.000+11:002008-11-30T01:35:00.000+11:00More self-hatred from our establishment. What a br...More self-hatred from our establishment. What a brilliant technique in nation building.<BR/><BR/>Can't expect much from a sodomite though - he's part of the perceived "other" and therefore has no reason to celebrate traditionalist history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com