tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post7817650143974224018..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Feminine rebellions: the Viking princessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-54298845695589058692007-05-09T00:05:00.000+10:002007-05-09T00:05:00.000+10:00When I go out to work I know that by doing so I am...<I>When I go out to work I know that by doing so I am keeping my family afloat. My efforts at work mean that I am creating a protected space in which my wife can raise our child. There is a particular kind of masculine satisfaction in succeeding in this role.</I><BR/><BR/>Well said, Mark. Observing my husband and my male friends, I'd say this is important for them too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-9500940399517584412007-05-08T01:58:00.000+10:002007-05-08T01:58:00.000+10:00Oh, and one more thing; to those who consider wom...Oh, and one more thing; to those who consider women who desire a traditional role lazy... and who thinks that breadwinning 'sucks'<BR/><BR/>Here's a female perspective; <BR/><BR/>Being pregnant isn't a dance on roses... (to avoid using rude words) <BR/><BR/>Having your period most certainly isn't either, although that varies from woman to woman.<BR/><BR/>Constantly being regarded as a sex object... well, unless its with a man I really fancy, it is extremely derogatory and there is nothing I can do about it. <I>I guess it's better than not being noticed at all, which is what happens to women who are ugly or old. </I><BR/><BR/>Wanting to be able to do things that require more physical strength than I have is extremely irritating too. Particularly when a man comes along and does it with no effort.<BR/><BR/>Get it? <BR/>Both genders have their challenges to meet! We should support each other with our unique strengths and natrual gifts, instead of trying to compete in a race which 'the weaker sex' really isn't coping that well anyway. <BR/><BR/>(As for what the current state of affairs it doing to men - I don't know, but I'd like to find out more. Not so convinced that it is really good for the men either. )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-40044786135385643952007-05-08T01:21:00.000+10:002007-05-08T01:21:00.000+10:00My point was never about whether men's contributio...My point was never about whether men's contribution was valuable or not. OF COURSE IT IS - VERY MUCH SO! <BR/><BR/>Additionally; What are these people talking about, saying that housekeeping is not as demanding and valuable as a lot of the work that men do?<BR/><BR/>It is not the soft option at all, assuming the woman in question is doing housekeeping to a good standard. <BR/><BR/>Having a good home is the foundation for success in many areas of life. And I wonder where the saying "Behind every strong man..." came from? <BR/><BR/>Obviously, if the woman manages the house full time, then the man does not have to do any housekeeping at all, and does not need to feel in the least guilty about it.<BR/><BR/>Instead he can relax in a comfortable, clean, inviting home, eating a healthy and home-cooked meal when he comes home from his 'bread-winning' job (which hopefully doesn't 'suck' too much.) In the morning he can get dressed from a clean, neat cupboard filled with well-ironed and maintained clothes. <BR/><BR/>The woman will be relaxed enough to be happy, relaxed and fun to be with... As opposed to being exhausted, having rushed home from work to get cracking with some sub-standard, rushed microwave cooking, washing, ironing and cleaning. <BR/><BR/><I>(All the while she is secretly extremely irritated at the unfairness of the situation, as (let's be honest) her husband probably isn't helping her out.)</I> <BR/><BR/>I won't bring the children into the picture. <BR/><BR/>I guess people just have different tastes on this matter; just like on everything else... <BR/><BR/>Personally I have come to the conclusion that the traditional split of labour makes the most sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-16619873158602795662007-05-06T03:38:00.000+10:002007-05-06T03:38:00.000+10:00"What is 'wrong', I think, is not feminism. It's w..."What is 'wrong', I think, is not feminism. It's western society's lack of a deeper appreciation for what both men and women who do it learn to be true about working hard."<BR/><BR/>This is terribly confused. The point is that feminism tells us that only the kinds of roles traditionally asociated with men in society have ever really been highly valued and respected. That's why it'sso important for women to assume those roles--so they can get all the respect and power that comes with slaving away to support yourself and your family.<BR/><BR/>If that's not true--if, as you say, the problem has always been that nobody appreciates the work put in by people supporting their families by working a job--then the feminists are wrong at the most elementary level. If your assessment of society's values is correct, then it is really MEN's role in society, MEN's sacrifices, and the virtue of MEN's work that have been underappreciated all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-45971433118774222902007-05-02T07:05:00.000+10:002007-05-02T07:05:00.000+10:00Shane, well put.Shane, well put.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-57701544627713358552007-05-02T02:35:00.000+10:002007-05-02T02:35:00.000+10:00What I read is the simple truth about "breadwinnin...<I>What I read is the simple truth about "breadwinning"... It sucks. Both men and women get very little credit from anyone for what they go through to support a family.</I><BR/><BR/>Breadwinning doesn’t “suck”. I can’t think of anything more satisfying than providing for one’s family. Beyond respect, you’re not meant to get “credit” for it either. You’re doing a normal duty, not a favour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-70471762821840985972007-05-02T01:36:00.000+10:002007-05-02T01:36:00.000+10:00America is not crawling with true gentlemen. So m...America is not crawling with true gentlemen. So many here are crass materialists happy to put the wife in a job just so they can buy a big pickup truck, a boat, or other expensive toys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-86552760015826616662007-05-02T00:47:00.000+10:002007-05-02T00:47:00.000+10:00Yortuk & Bad Karma,It's true that breadwinning req...Yortuk & Bad Karma,<BR/><BR/>It's true that breadwinning requires sacrifices from men as well as women.<BR/><BR/>However Cordelia notes at her site that the men she works with seem more content with their lot than she does.<BR/><BR/>There are reasons for this. The men are fulfilling a primary masculine provider role by going to work and earning an income. <BR/><BR/>When I go out to work I know that by doing so I am keeping my family afloat. My efforts at work mean that I am creating a protected space in which my wife can raise our child. There is a particular kind of masculine satisfaction in succeeding in this role.<BR/><BR/>Nor will a man's sense of masculine identity be sapped by a competitive work environment as a woman's feminine identity might be. Work can become an arena for a man's competitive instincts.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-33077550489519281642007-05-02T00:28:00.000+10:002007-05-02T00:28:00.000+10:00Welcome to the human race! You should come to the ...Welcome to the human race! You should come to the US and experience a true American gentleman who will not only treat you like the lady that is blossoming, but also respect your strength and intellect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-63635544406291602472007-05-02T00:09:00.000+10:002007-05-02T00:09:00.000+10:00Here's the quote of the article for me: "I get ve...Here's the quote of the article for me: "I get very little satisfaction from my ‘high-powered’ job. Why is this?"<BR/><BR/>Vikingprincess concludes "I think it is because what I am doing is against nature!" and so, it seems does the author of this blog...<BR/><BR/>What I read is the simple truth about "breadwinning"... It sucks. Both men and women get very little credit from anyone for what they go through to support a family.<BR/><BR/>However, to conclude that disliking this truth is somehow part of a feminine nature is missing the point.<BR/><BR/>What is "wrong", I think, is not feminism. It's western society's lack of a deeper appreciation for what both men and women who do it learn to be true about working hard. Family is more rewarding. If anyone appreciates this from their experience, I'd prefer to blame the nature of work, not feminism, for the revelation.Craig Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824029248081902170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-80974653915017800022007-05-01T13:12:00.000+10:002007-05-01T13:12:00.000+10:00Well I don't think most men are any more satisfied...Well I don't think most men are any more satisfied with their careers than vikingprincess with hers. But men are just expected to accept it. That's their traditional role. So our little princess doesn't want that kind of responsibility. Whatever. I'm not impressed.Yortukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02064065027061157205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-56116756672305421592007-05-01T12:50:00.000+10:002007-05-01T12:50:00.000+10:00Cordelia's story and her web page are like a breat...Cordelia's story and her web page are like a breath of fresh air! I was very happy to add her to my blog roll<BR/>Cheers<BR/>IainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-41698416460437180502007-05-01T11:45:00.000+10:002007-05-01T11:45:00.000+10:00Be encouraged and keep blogging!AlbertHoward.orgBe encouraged and keep blogging!<BR/><BR/>AlbertHoward.orgAlbert Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13438479989287556504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-68707680534136955952007-05-01T10:09:00.000+10:002007-05-01T10:09:00.000+10:00Looks like Cordelia endorses your assessment Mr. R...Looks like Cordelia endorses your assessment Mr. Richardson:<BR/><BR/>http://www.vikingprincess.net<BR/>/66/i-the-feminine-rebel<BR/><BR/>More of these women are "coming out" (pun intended) more often.<BR/><BR/>What a positive development.<BR/><BR/>On a related matter, I hear There is a statist bastion of dissent from the homosexual paradigm in the European Union (of all places!); perhaps OzConservative may want to write something by way of a report about this:<BR/><BR/>http://www.europarl.europa.eu<BR/>/eplive/public/freetext_page_<BR/>direct/20061020FTX11890-2101<BR/>/default_en.htm<BR/><BR/>(I had to break up the URL into 4 bits; otherwise it doesn't show up in the preview...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-40576923287173582772007-05-01T08:47:00.000+10:002007-05-01T08:47:00.000+10:00Is there room in the world for people who enjoy tr...Is there room in the world for people who enjoy traditional gender roles and those who'd don't?<BR/><BR/>I believe so.Swimwatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444735395201159261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-6270614287650586292007-05-01T08:21:00.000+10:002007-05-01T08:21:00.000+10:00Cordelia's not the only Swedish woman reacting in ...Cordelia's not the only Swedish woman reacting in this way. My cousin is an absolute bogan of an Aussie, a roofing contractor who likes his Jim Beam and Coke, his Ford ute, and his deplorable dress sense; and his wife is a Swedish researcher in epilepsy; smart as a tack, who is now happily married to him with a lovely kid. <BR/><BR/>A more unlikely couple you are unlikely to meet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-11175442214780652792007-05-01T05:26:00.000+10:002007-05-01T05:26:00.000+10:00Wow, what an eloquent summary of what I wrote! I a...Wow, what an eloquent summary of what I wrote! I am very honoured that you choose my posts for this article. Thank you! <BR/>Cordelia a.k.a. VikingprincessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-60553803196292566962007-04-30T23:02:00.000+10:002007-04-30T23:02:00.000+10:00Wow, she is the perfect girl!Wow, she is the perfect girl!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com