tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post4872423255871790151..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Why did the ACLU stamp out a father-daughter dance?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-47992611153863721822012-09-23T20:08:20.209+10:002012-09-23T20:08:20.209+10:00A question:
What happens to the teenage girl with...A question:<br /><br />What happens to the teenage girl without a father girl? What happens when she finds out that she has been lied to by her mother, by liberal influence and whatnot?<br /><br />Will she have sex with an older man to fill the void or something? You know a 16-18 year old girl having sex with a man that is 24-35 years old?Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-43002491884811751402012-09-23T15:48:39.562+10:002012-09-23T15:48:39.562+10:00you think this and same-sex marriage are intertwin...you think this and same-sex marriage are intertwined? after all same-sex marriage necessitates the removal of gendered language from law. parent A parent B 'n all that.<br /><br />maybe i overestimate how sweeping that would be (indeed some liberals would like to minimize it as simply a bureaucratic change,) dunno, but it's something that unfortunately isn't discussed a ton in the whole debate over the issue, from either side.JDPhttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-19333725434654819382012-09-23T14:09:13.083+10:002012-09-23T14:09:13.083+10:00The ACLU is a scourge of society.
ACLU Compares C...The ACLU is a scourge of society.<br /><br /><a href="http://blog.cardinalnewmansociety.org/2012/08/08/aclu-compares-catholics-to-racists/" rel="nofollow">ACLU Compares Catholics to Racists</a>bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-42524395300364081802012-09-23T12:28:36.883+10:002012-09-23T12:28:36.883+10:00What costs a lot of money are the extraneous aspec...<i>What costs a lot of money are the extraneous aspects of the wedding ceremony. </i><br /><br />Excellent insight.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-54740829085561754982012-09-23T06:46:38.455+10:002012-09-23T06:46:38.455+10:00Whence this assumption that the poor can't &qu...Whence this assumption that the poor can't "get married"? Marriage - that is, the actual process of registering one's union with the state and/or church - does not cost a lot of money. What costs a lot of money are the extraneous aspects of the wedding ceremony.Lucillenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-68037847208730421172012-09-22T18:46:09.579+10:002012-09-22T18:46:09.579+10:00In my experience, unmarried-but-cohabiting parents...<i>In my experience, unmarried-but-cohabiting parents are very, very rare.</i><br /><br />Agreed but this type of family formation is probably the best for the lower classes (e.g. the poor), since they can't get married. For the poor it's either cohabitation or single motherhood.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-29449728227153066772012-09-22T09:34:01.448+10:002012-09-22T09:34:01.448+10:00Mark, liberalism does not care that its claims and...<i>Mark, liberalism does not care that its claims and assumptions are insane, destructive, and in many cases internally contradictory.</i><br /><br />I agree. But I'm not addressing liberals when I write these posts. I'm trying to speak to those with a sense that there is something wrong with the direction of modern Western societies.<br /><br />What matters is that enough of these people don't just come to think "Well, I oppose the latest radical liberal policy as political correctness gone mad, but I'll go along unthinkingly with the general liberal philosophy of society".<br /><br />That is what has happened over and over again in the past 50 or so years. It means that the latest radical liberal policy gets a hostile reception when it is first proposed, but because it's in line with the general drift of society it eventually gets accepted.<br /><br />You can see this in the comments to the story in the Providence Journal. 96% of 17000 people were against banning the dance. But few seemed to be able to argue in a non-liberal principled way. Common arguments were "rename the dance so that it doesn't discriminate" or "it is intolerant to ban the dance" or "is this an important issue for Cranston to be concerning itself with" and so on.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-47501259611343328552012-09-22T08:48:02.370+10:002012-09-22T08:48:02.370+10:00I don't believe there is anything from the fam...I don't believe there is anything from the families organizing a private party father-daughter dance on an invite only basis. <br /><br />They don't have to invite the single mother who filed the suit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-87659072212585039612012-09-22T07:25:29.767+10:002012-09-22T07:25:29.767+10:00What troubles me is not the whiney liberals puttin...What troubles me is not the whiney liberals putting a stop to what other people want to do. What truely scares me is that no one with any testicular fortitude had the will to stand up to them and say "Go To Hell! We will have our dance weather you like it or not! We will not be intimidated by your threats of a frivolous lawsuit..."<br /> These pencil-neck meddlers, setting themselves up as the arbitors of right and wrong will be able to get away with anything as long as good people continue to roll over concede more rights and freedoms whenever "lawsuit!" is invoked. The organisers of said dance deserve what they get.Eric J Schlegelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12004991364990156612012-09-22T05:08:51.987+10:002012-09-22T05:08:51.987+10:00In such manner is the new socialist man, who has n...In such manner is the new socialist man, who has no loyalty to anything except the state brought into existence.<br /><br /> Unless God intervenes, they shall most likely be successful. Most modern people regard mind-boggling stupidity as a badge of honour, the stupider the better is their attitude.<br /><br /> Many of them no longer think at all, not even at a very low level, not even to preserve their own lives. There's really nothing anyone can do for them, they must be left to their fate.<br /><br /> They have chosen to become eloi, & like the eloi they will be devoured by their masters. It's too bad that they'll likely pull down the few decent people that remain with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-9708077075972756512012-09-22T05:05:25.388+10:002012-09-22T05:05:25.388+10:00I've read that a proportion (how much exactly?...<i>I've read that a proportion (how much exactly?) of bastards in the USA are from male-female couples that cohabitate but can't marry (e.g. not affordable, too expensive) or don't want to</i><br /><br />If you can afford to live together, you can afford to marry. That's really a nonissue. <br /><br />As to the "don't want" to... many nonChristian couples, indeed most, live together for a while before marrying. However, they <b>almost always marry when they decide have kids</b> -- or if they learn they've already got one on the way. <br /><br />So yes, single mothers are almost always either solo-mommies, or divorced (usually by their own choice). In my experience, unmarried-but-cohabiting parents are very, very rare.van Rooineknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-26358810472797604462012-09-22T04:33:56.314+10:002012-09-22T04:33:56.314+10:00Single mothers seem to be either the unmarried typ...Single mothers seem to be either the unmarried types or the divorced types.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-82585065275069249062012-09-22T04:30:14.665+10:002012-09-22T04:30:14.665+10:00The ACLU brought the complaint against the father-...<i>The ACLU brought the complaint against the father-daughter dance on behalf of just one <b>single mother.</b></i><br /><br />Interesting. Are all out of wedlock births in the USA necessarily of the single mother type? I've read that a proportion (how much exactly?) of bastards in the USA are from male-female couples that cohabitate but can't marry (e.g. not affordable, too expensive) or don't want to.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-57583815163901027412012-09-22T04:25:08.967+10:002012-09-22T04:25:08.967+10:00I've noticed three things in this case:
1 - T...I've noticed three things in this case:<br /><br />1 - The same liberal people who harp on how the law is on their side, are the same ones who cry out about "legislating morality".<br /><br />2 - Family interaction should be minimized and children should be autonomous beings, preferably of a Stalin like state.<br /><br />3 - The use of exceptions to the rule, to once again disprove a rule, when if anything rules deal with <i>generalities</i> and not necessarily everything. In reality, few girls are anything resembling Amazonian warriors but feminism is doing everything in its power to create more of them.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-71695545030732598452012-09-22T03:37:11.459+10:002012-09-22T03:37:11.459+10:00Mark, liberalism does not care that its claims and...Mark, liberalism does not care that its claims and assumptions are insane, destructive, and in many cases internally contradictory. Therefore attempts to answer them are pointless - and efforts to explain them as rational methods to achieve "good" ends are positively counterproductive.<br /><br />The way to treat the Left is exactly the way they treat us: ignore them and assume they are evil. Because they are!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-72587941280869019692012-09-22T02:14:27.187+10:002012-09-22T02:14:27.187+10:00I am not a betting man, but I wonder where I can p...I am not a betting man, but I wonder where I can place a bet against the ACLU. I am willing to put up some major cash that one of the girls of Cranston, Rhode Island, will not grow up to be "a great major league baseball player" in the next thirty years.<br />Clark Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-15716122038812113982012-09-22T00:05:11.901+10:002012-09-22T00:05:11.901+10:00Anon,
Regardless of intentions, liberalism is the...Anon,<br /><br />Regardless of intentions, liberalism is the philosophy of the modern Western state. It makes claims for itself and it's best if we can answer these claims, particularly by bringing to the surface the first assumptions that liberalism is based on.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-35104220644403412562012-09-21T23:41:48.253+10:002012-09-21T23:41:48.253+10:00This is not about "freedom" or "sta...This is not about "freedom" or "stamping out stereotypes". This is about sticking a finger in the eye of normal people.<br /><br />Do NOT give the Left credit for "good intentions".<br /><br />They are EVIL, EVIL, EVIL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com