tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post4244968902635244200..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: When worlds collideUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-10103656617945791192015-10-01T06:08:02.223+10:002015-10-01T06:08:02.223+10:00"But the logic of modern society favours the ..."But the logic of modern society favours the hipsters not the anarchists, particularly whilst economic conditions remain stable."<br /><br />Actually over the last few years their has been a slight revival of the old-economic left. Notice how the UK Labour party has elected an old-school Leftist while Bernie Sanders is quite well in the US.<br /><br />This isn't so much about economic instability, but economic stagnation - people are starting to get feed up with the effects of jobless recoveries, lack of affordable housing and the burden of carrying debt for long periods of time. For example, we now have people in their 40s who still have student debt they acquired in their 20s.<br /><br />And of course nationalists and populists like Trump and Le Pen are attracting increasing numbers of working and lower middle class voters.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-22898311163943907402015-09-30T19:22:03.791+10:002015-09-30T19:22:03.791+10:00Simon, I can still remember that mindset from olde...Simon, I can still remember that mindset from older men when I was growing up. There were men who simply collapsed when women made an angry demand, as if they were obligated as men to accede. Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-23708146052627132172015-09-30T18:06:04.918+10:002015-09-30T18:06:04.918+10:00I think Feminism piggybacked on the Victorian chiv...I think Feminism piggybacked on the Victorian chivalrous notion that women were inherently good and nice, and if women get angry it must be for very good reason. I think that 19th century sacralisation of womanhood was a necessary precursor to feminist success.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-49901874961666132192015-09-30T08:58:47.139+10:002015-09-30T08:58:47.139+10:00Certainly true in normal times. Attacking harmless...Certainly true in normal times. Attacking harmless hipsters will repel the average well-adjusted person. The only exception I can think of is if there were some real crisis in society that suddenly cut the ground under people's feet. It might then be possible to harness anger on a larger scale. Also, anger has worked to a certain degree for feminists, at least for the "angry undergraduate" type of feminist, but only because there was a more pragmatic wing of the movement focused on careerism (and another wing promoting sexual revolution), and only because there were reasons for the powers that be to foster these other wings of the movement.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-65740023759945400352015-09-30T03:32:12.499+10:002015-09-30T03:32:12.499+10:00Building a political ideology on hatred of other e...Building a political ideology on hatred of other entities doesn't tend to engender success, and they don't tend to last long. Too much negativity tends to repel normal people.Alcestis Eshtemoanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-21445226760009776602015-09-29T22:10:24.224+10:002015-09-29T22:10:24.224+10:00I agree that anarchist politics is hateful. Trads ...I agree that anarchist politics is hateful. Trads want to energise political commitments through a defence of identities and institutions that engender our love and loyalty. But anarchists reject these. I suspect that their mindset is that you energise political commitments instead in a more negative way, by appealing to hatred and envy.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-3123579729420232232015-09-29T20:19:34.502+10:002015-09-29T20:19:34.502+10:00These 'Anarchists' are the militant end of...These 'Anarchists' are the militant end of the SJW - Social Justice Warrior - phenomenon, a whole lifestyle based around Hate. Cultural Marxism, the SJW ideology, +l iberal-democratic individualist Capitalism created the environment that gave birth to the decidedly un-Hateful hipsters, a lifestyle based around play, irony, self-expression. Hipsters tend not to make babies, but otherwise they are not that bad, to the extent they have any beliefs they tend to be mildly conservative, favouring many of the things traditionalists do. They are very comfortable with 'liberal conservatives' like Boris Johnson and David Cameron, far more than with hatchet-faced ever-serious New Labour types.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.com