tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post1851522064625051385..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Trudeau's post-nationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-50087754725939206902017-01-22T12:43:59.839+11:002017-01-22T12:43:59.839+11:00To me, reading Trudeau's blather sounds more l...To me, reading Trudeau's blather sounds more like a 'happy version' of the coming Balkanization of Canada.Take The Red Pillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-79408795946161943382017-01-21T13:38:19.540+11:002017-01-21T13:38:19.540+11:00The way I look at it it's an attempt to create...The way I look at it it's an attempt to create a kind of global pseudo-liberal orthodoxy. The 'shared values' always include at least some important contemporary liberal attitudes; notably tolerance as an overriding virtue, a respect for diversity and inclusion as inherently good things, and respect for 'freedom' and 'hard work.'<br /><br />If I were to say that being Australian means you respect hard work, honesty, freedom, tolerance, diversity, and inclusion; would any self respecting virtuous liberal type disagree? What if I just replaced Australian with Canadian? Any disagreement? What if I said this it what it means to be British, or a Kiwi, or American, or German, or Swedish? How many liberals will disagree strongly with anything I have said? Obviously there are language and citizenship barriers, but these are not descriptive of an identity.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449974719371426423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-53715903239389031522017-01-21T09:45:56.457+11:002017-01-21T09:45:56.457+11:00Chaos and strife seem inevitable. It is very likel...Chaos and strife seem inevitable. It is very likely to be of a sufficient magnitude to take the oligarchs down with it.Michael Leahyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044897013849386271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-68812308206394116592017-01-21T09:07:47.128+11:002017-01-21T09:07:47.128+11:00"There is no core identity, no mainstream in ...<em>"There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada," he claimed. "There are shared values..."</em><br /><br />The shared values argument has always been nonsense of course. It's also sinister. It implies that anyone who doesn't share those warm-and-fuzzy feel-good hippie-dippy values is an outcast, or even an outlaw. It implies that any political dissent is illegitimate. <br /><br />You cannot have a nation with shared values unless those values are enforced, either by coercion or naked force. If the only thing holding the nation together is shared values then they absolutely <strong>must</strong> be enforced. Totalitarianism, whether of the hard or the soft variety, becomes essential. The only way to ensure absolute tolerance is through absolute intolerance of dissent.<br /><br />The Soviet Union under Stalin had shared values. dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-82728855887357211342017-01-21T07:18:16.193+11:002017-01-21T07:18:16.193+11:00Interesting Mark. Trump's "nationalism&qu...Interesting Mark. Trump's "nationalism" seems to be citizen nationalism i.e. what Steve Sailer calls "citizenism" whereas the democrats (and many Republicans) want to extend citizen nationalism to the world in which case it can't be called nationalism any more.Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-88771081855308879172017-01-21T03:16:46.394+11:002017-01-21T03:16:46.394+11:00The term "Western Nations" represents a ...The term "Western Nations" represents a transition to this propositional form of nation or geographic space. The European nations, collectively called Christendom, were founded on blood and soil in a hierarchical nation headed by an aristocracy and monarch with attachment to land ownership. By virtue of this affinity with the land, the monarch and aristocracy were motivated to guard the land and peoples of the nation.Europe was thus a monarchical society governed by King or Queen and Church. This preserved social stability but limited the power of the industrialists and bankers who had to operate with constraints. A small minority wanted to overthrow this old order and the Reformation, enlightenment and revolutions followed. <br /><br />The colonisation of the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand created different types of societies. Founded by Freemasonry, these societies were based upon Masonic ideals of the Enlightenment; Liberty, Fraternity, Egalite. The term "Western civilisation" is an invention which describes the ideological, propositional nations and not historic Europe.<br /><br />The revolutions in Europe which deposed or killed the monarchs and devastated the aristocracy were aimed at transforming the European nations to ideological states controlled by oligarchs and international capital rather than Church and King in the same manner as the colonial states. <br /><br />The initial migrants to the colonies were white Christians who created the new country in a similar but not identical culture to the European nations from whence they had fled. However subsequent waves of immigrants will destroy this.<br /><br />The takeover of the Western nations by international finance is complete in the Anglo Saxon nations and almost complete in Europe under the rule of the Euro. In essence these states are held captive by oligarchs who are mobile, have no attachment to land or people and have no interest in preserving anything except their own raw power. This necessitates the reduction of the mass of the population to debt slavery and Third World status.<br /><br /><br />The removal of hereditary aristocracy rooted in land gives rise to oligarchic financial rule. The former provides stability, the latter cannot as capital is mobile and business unstable. It looks as though we are coming to the end of the enlightenment experiment with its potential collapse into chaos and strife.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-66182926333975090582017-01-21T03:03:07.437+11:002017-01-21T03:03:07.437+11:00Hello civil war.Hello civil war.Laguna Beach Fogeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08027025872132699493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-2201079588298399042017-01-21T02:33:53.706+11:002017-01-21T02:33:53.706+11:00Of course this is all based on a (false, I believe...Of course this is all based on a (false, I believe) belief that all races are the same in terms of intelligence and temperament. The Liberal belief is that the societal civilizational level won't change with new peoples.RobertBrandywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661602554300651862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-52613915733042154742017-01-20T22:41:34.596+11:002017-01-20T22:41:34.596+11:00This is the same guy now under investigation for g...This is the same guy now under investigation for getting flown by private jet (along with his family) to spend New Year's on a billionaire Muslim's private resort.<br />This despite him being super excited Canada is welcoming in a major milestone.<br />Apparently he thinks it's all ok because his family and the billionaire's family have been friends since he was a little boy.<br />Nothing to see here.One Fat Oz Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07797937597104956489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-84306571764259431872017-01-20T16:10:50.926+11:002017-01-20T16:10:50.926+11:00T2's 'post nation' is just treason and...T2's 'post nation' is just treason and complicity in White Genocide.<br /><br />This is a crime, not a 'policy option' and those doing it must be held accountable. <br /><br />Canada has a whole division of treasonous thugs: MSM, bureaucrats, and politicians. <br /><br />ITs an ugly nation now. All smiles for the cameras though. cecilhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295507329028875050noreply@blogger.com