tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post1585692149696407871..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: From the horse's mouthUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-13294104776603551502012-01-31T06:12:30.886+11:002012-01-31T06:12:30.886+11:00@ Elizabeth
While I can appreciate a subtle disti...@ Elizabeth<br /><br />While I can appreciate a subtle distinction between freedom and liberty, the two words appear frequently as part of the definition of the other. Mark used words like "autonomy" self-determining" and "independent" in his description of feminism. "Left-liberalism" does not foster independence, though it might be associated with autonomy and self-determination. "Libertarianism" on the other hand can be associated with all three terms.<br /><br />Left liberalism (the liberalism of feminism) fosters a dependence on big government to enforce and fund its "freedoms." Libertarianism promotes independence from smaller governments to allow its "liberties." Thus the left liberal (feminist) assures freedom for some (women) while depending upon the servitude of others (men) to provide the protections and funding for those freedoms.<br /><br />TDOMTDOMhttp://thedamnedoldeman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-89600684054702837522012-01-30T23:30:27.752+11:002012-01-30T23:30:27.752+11:00"...feminism boils down to one fundamental pr...<b><i>"...feminism boils down to one fundamental principle and that is women's ability to be independent..."</i></b><br /><br />=> Unfortunately, the over-focus of independence has consequences.<br /><br />The cycle of human life goes something like this...<br /><br />(1) Birth to teenager = Dependence<br />(2) Teenager to young adult = Independence<br />(3) Matured adult = Inter-dependence<br />(4) Elderly = Dependence<br /><br />It just tells me feminism is a self-contradiction and not realising they're going against Nature itself. <br /><br />It certainly does explain why you have some women publishing online articles about their regret in their life decisions. ie: The 30yr+ crowd of career women who realise they still want kids. Then they blame it on men for not "stepping up" or "man up" as they keep telling the world they are some prized catch. (What feminism doesn't tell them is that men want a younger, more supple woman with fresh eggs. Not a career monger seeking material status and titles!) *rolls eyes*<br /><br />It also has other consequences...As men will respond to women's demands for independence. eg: There's no reason for men to commit to marriage any longer. They don't need to help women in times of trouble. Women can do it all themselves, remember?!<br /><br />The only way to demonstrate "Equality" and the "independent life" is a bad idea, is to deliberately enforce it until it affects all women at a personal level. They'll soon realise its not something they want when its seriously applied in all aspects of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-89567518070678322952012-01-30T16:51:13.108+11:002012-01-30T16:51:13.108+11:00But can a feminist be anti-abortion? Anne Summers,...<i>But can a feminist be anti-abortion? Anne Summers, a grand old dame of Australian feminism, thinks not.</i><br /><br />For once I agree with a feminist.Elizabeth Smithhttp://alcestiseshtemoa.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-83915077196905171852012-01-30T16:49:27.923+11:002012-01-30T16:49:27.923+11:00Melinda Tankard Reist is an Australian feminist wh...<i>Melinda Tankard Reist is an Australian feminist who is anti-abortion, anti-porn and against the sexualisation of girls.</i><br /><br />This type of feminism is quite contradictory, inconsistent and is a memory of the "unprincipled exception" feminism where one tried to temper the irrationality and destruction of more genuine, <i>purer</i> forms of feminism with traditional conservative cords in an effort to 'balance' out its heartening consequences. Feminism is in essence a part of liberalism and will always exalt autonomy.<br /><br /><i>What you are describing sounds more like libertarianism than liberalism which promoted dependence on big government rather than independence.</i><br /><br />No, that is left-liberalism, not right-liberalism. Both are liberal in philosophy, simply the organizing principle of how to <i>achieve</i> this autonomy is different. Left-liberals use the state to achieve their freedom, right-liberals use the market forces to achieve their liberty.Elizabeth Smithhttp://alcestiseshtemoa.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-91409458223708981772012-01-30T07:45:19.586+11:002012-01-30T07:45:19.586+11:00O/T
At the risk of spamming can I remind all Brit...O/T<br /><br />At the risk of spamming can I remind all British citizens to sign this e-petition: <a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19658" rel="nofollow">No to 70 million</a>.<br /><br />At 100,000 signatures the government is supposed to allow a debate on the matter in parliament, its well past that now but the bigger the numbers the louder the message. I realise its a very mild anti-immigration measure, not nearly enough and of course 'they' don't want to do anything, but thats the beauty of the petition, its so mild that no one could object to signing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-81240411537644176032012-01-30T05:33:37.547+11:002012-01-30T05:33:37.547+11:00Keep reading, Jules, and prepare to have your mind...Keep reading, Jules, and prepare to have your mind blown. Richardson's posts succinctly explain a lot of the strange things we do.Bartholomewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-76085939027127873862012-01-30T04:21:28.360+11:002012-01-30T04:21:28.360+11:00"Feminism is liberalism applied to the lives ..."Feminism is liberalism applied to the lives of women. And the key principle of liberalism is autonomy - the aim of a self-determining, independent life."<br /><br />What you are describing sounds more like libertarianism than liberalism which promoted dependence on big government rather than independence.<br /><br />"There are two fundamental preconditions to such independence: ability to support oneself financially and the right to control one's fertility... To guarantee the second, women need safe and effective contraception and the back-up of safe and affordable abortion."<br /><br />I wonder if she's ever considered what this would mean if applied to men; effective male contraception and a back-up of legal abdication of parental rights and responsibility.<br /><br />TDOMTDOMhttp://thedamnedoldeman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-29206602746837273222012-01-29T22:40:28.700+11:002012-01-29T22:40:28.700+11:00Absolutely free to be a cat lady.Absolutely free to be a cat lady.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12622456108394514632012-01-29T22:17:12.116+11:002012-01-29T22:17:12.116+11:00According to that logic, a male's right to ind...According to that logic, a male's right to independence would necessitate the right to infanticide?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-86038107106674882922012-01-29T21:47:56.848+11:002012-01-29T21:47:56.848+11:00"How can women in practice achieve social equ..."How can women in practice achieve social equality? As far as I am concerned, feminism boils down to one fundamental principle and that is women's ability to be independent."<br /><br />I don't get it. Do women have to be MORE independant than men to acheive social equality with men?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-4744266395621375552012-01-29T13:45:48.641+11:002012-01-29T13:45:48.641+11:00First principles..autonomy..holy shit. I read a lo...First principles..autonomy..holy shit. I read a lot, and I mean a lot, but that is the first time I've read someone succinctly explain WHY liberal women do what they do.Julesnoreply@blogger.com