tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post116803022912500119..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Why artists should be conservativeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-50762363815893970082011-02-06T02:27:06.432+11:002011-02-06T02:27:06.432+11:00You are correct on all points. That is why I have ...You are correct on all points. That is why I have been working so hard to get conservative artists organized. I have found that simply trying to contact the people who can help is not enough. They get too many emails to notice.<br />I have put together a booklet representing my group of art friends from across America and will be going to CPAC to promote our efforts in person. I find the personal connection really makes a difference.<br />If you are interested in seeing the book and the artwork, it is available online at: http://www.machinepolitick.com/?page_id=1522<br />There are many misconceptions we must overcome, but perseverance will pay off. I appreciate your advice and hope you will keep track of our progress.<br />FrancesMachinepolitickhttp://www.machinepolitick.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-15198109164779940562011-02-06T00:34:16.522+11:002011-02-06T00:34:16.522+11:00Getting support from our community won't matte...Getting support from our community won't matter much if we can't get big supporters. No one cares if a bunch of conservative minded artists put on an exhibit... but they do care if if a high profile conservative promotes the exhibit in some manner. That is how you make the news and that is how you give teeth to an art movement. <br /><br />There are only a few openly conservative minded professionals in the mainstream art world. The art critic Brian Sherwin is one of them. I'd say contact people like him to get the ball rolling. <br /><br />Another person of interest is Andrew Breitbart. He has shown interest in de-polarizing the art world. We have to contact people like this and make them know that it is worth pressing on. <br /><br />Conservative visual art is not just art from centuries back, it is not just Old Master paintings... there are living artists exploring conservative themes in contemporary works of art. I think the problem with Beck is that he views conservatism in art as being masterful painting created before modernism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-43735447332438056042010-12-13T04:19:24.226+11:002010-12-13T04:19:24.226+11:00There are many interesting points of view here and...There are many interesting points of view here and I think we are all on the right path to addressing the issue of art and culture. This is not just an issue of music, poetry, painting or any other genre. Our success depends on our ability to come together to address the issue of one-sidedness in the arts. The challenge is not finding people to support our point of view. It is getting them to act on their desire to promote Conservativism through the arts. Take Glenn Beck for example. He complains periodically about art, offers to put on a show, then does nothing. I know several people who submitted Conservative political art to him and not one of us got a response. The biggest obstacle we have is lack of support and follow through from our own community.MachinePolitickhttp://www.machinepolitick.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-69862768439574681812010-12-12T15:06:29.349+11:002010-12-12T15:06:29.349+11:00There is nothing wrong with modern / contemporary ...There is nothing wrong with modern / contemporary art. The problem is that there is an extreme left bias within professional art world. For example, taxpayer dollars fund museum art exhibits and other gallery spaces, but the curators who put those exhibits together often have a far left bent.<br /><br />I think the solution would be for taxpayers,who want to see more than far left viewpoints featured in public funded exhibits, to write their representatives demanding that public funded venues have their funds reduced or pulled if they do not have exhibits that convey several viewpoints. <br /><br />There are great artists living today who create pro life art and who explore themes of marriage between man and woman, but you won't see those artists being exhibits in mainstream galleries or in public funded spaces because of the left bias that exists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-40598008478900323432009-06-28T11:59:51.928+10:002009-06-28T11:59:51.928+10:00We are out there. It is a tough world for Conserva...We are out there. It is a tough world for Conservatives in the arts for two reasons: 1. Liberals are in the majority and they hate us, 2. Conservatives think we are pulling something over on them. <br />Please forgive me for posting links, but I thought you might like to know what I am up to. I am a political artist in Atlanta, Georgia; US. My views are Objectivist/Libertarian and my work is not well received by the art community. I persevere however, and have teamed up with Modern Conservative to launch a Conservative art movement. It's home is at Liberatchik.com, and I have written a manifesto and handbook. Currently, I am seeking Conservative artists to join up, feature their work, recruit more members and make it a national movement. If you know anyone, anywhere in the world who qualifies, please pass the links.<br />My work can be viewed at www.machinepolitick.com. Thank you for your time and I would love to hear what you think.<br />I believe that our culture is directly influenced by all forms of art, and will not rise from its current descent into squalor until we present an alternative that the average person can relate to and appreciate aesthetically.machinepolitickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02869834497906422383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-33098302101864959612008-05-28T18:04:00.000+10:002008-05-28T18:04:00.000+10:00Public Art, Public Museums, Public Libraries, Publ...Public Art, Public Museums, Public Libraries, Public Education, Public Transportation - - a government that cares about Public Art is a Liberal one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-21816771578491422592007-01-31T04:52:00.000+11:002007-01-31T04:52:00.000+11:00I just surfed in here on a blog search. Interestin...I just surfed in here on a blog search. Interesting take. <br /><br />I would think one of the reasons why poetry (my particular province) is at a low ebb is precisely because there is a lack of "marketing" among artists.<br /><br />In the Victorian age, poets would have two "repertoires", if you would. The "personal stuff"-- which is the stuff where they wanted to treat of their personal preoccupations; and the "popular" stuff, which was essentially marketed for mass appeal.<br /><br />Poets have completely abandoned the second. There is no attempt to appeal to the people.<br /><br />And plus, poetry lacks a "star" system like the other arts have. It's schlocky, superficial, and so forth, but it succeeds in keeping particular arts alive.<br /><br />Popular music sustains the high-brow stuff; Hollywood does the same for the serious filmmaking. Poetry does not have that same mass-marketed system.<br /><br />It's not like there isn't a desire. Just think of all the fourteen-year-old girls in the world who like poetry. They just don't have access to it in a way that appeals to them.<br /><br />But I like your idea that a more conservative society would be more artistic. I had never thought of it that way.Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15038275826830875246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168163176049926272007-01-07T20:46:00.000+11:002007-01-07T20:46:00.000+11:00I have also notice many times how modern liberal p...I have also notice many times how modern liberal pop/rock musicians are quick to point out that their music, lyrics, and everything is for entertainment and "not to be taken seriously". Any musician who would dare to state that his music indeed "attempts to capture the transcendent", would be negatively viewed to be a "religious person", "too serious", and thus somehow flawed, according to atheistic liberal principles.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, those who want to be seen as "serious" (yet liberal and thus "good") are always trying to make themselves a name as tireless and passionate benefactors, who wish to "save the Third World" or "bring the world peace".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168135376100049502007-01-07T13:02:00.000+11:002007-01-07T13:02:00.000+11:00Valamparampil, thanks for the comment. In regards ...Valamparampil, thanks for the comment. In regards to music, notice how the Western classical music tradition, one of the greatest of the world's artistic traditions, has just about died out since WWII (in the sense of a) the production of new masterpieces and b) its place within modern culture).<BR/><BR/>For examples of the transcendent within the classical music tradition, think of a piece like Vaughan William's The Lark Ascending, which finely expresses English national feeling.<BR/><BR/>It's true that various forms of popular music have held their ground.<BR/><BR/>Popular culture, though, has more a function of entertainment and this is why it's true of pop artists that "their music does not necessarily attempt to capture the 'transcendent' or the traditional aspects of culture" as you put it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168133357085343272007-01-07T12:29:00.000+11:002007-01-07T12:29:00.000+11:00I’ll add that the only longevity you find in moder...I’ll add that the only longevity you find in modern music, is when an artist uses very traditional styles and song structures. <BR/><BR/>Bob Dylan’s long term success has everything to do with the way he mimics 19th century British folk song. <BR/><BR/>Even his counter culture lyrics appeal, at root, to the ‘community feeling’ that came from ethnic folk music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168132483742544402007-01-07T12:14:00.000+11:002007-01-07T12:14:00.000+11:00I can throw out names for you throughout the decad...<I>I can throw out names for you throughout the decades: The Clash, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Bob Dylan etc. They all seem to be able to capture their audience, and their music does not necessarily attempt to capture the "transcendant" or the traditional aspects of culture.</I><BR/><BR/>We can trace that back to the start of mass distributed music - the commercial transition from the first big selling artist, the operatic and expensive to produce Mario Lanza, to his RCA stable mate, Elvis Presley. <BR/><BR/>Record companies found - through Elvis - that combining emotional chordal progressions with an appeal to juvenile vanity was a cheap and easy winning formula, especially in the predominantly young population of the USA.<BR/><BR/>It’s the same exact formula record companies use to this day.<BR/><BR/>In the absence of a real, structured culture, three generations of the West have since been bombarded with this manufactured identity of ‘rebellion’ and decadence.<BR/><BR/>Whether it be Britney Spears or Rage Against The Machine, it’s all from the same blueprint. And most people, once they grow up a bit, are embarrassed of what they were ‘taught’ to like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168080996471226192007-01-06T21:56:00.000+11:002007-01-06T21:56:00.000+11:00I think that a lot of conservatives have been "tur...I think that a lot of conservatives have been "turned off" by today's "art" and this as made the situation worst.<BR/><BR/>I will add that artists tend to use the right side of their brain which is creative but childish.<BR/><BR/>http://www.neuropolitics.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168073689015852212007-01-06T19:54:00.000+11:002007-01-06T19:54:00.000+11:00I forgot to mention this: Anyone interested to pur...I forgot to mention this: <BR/><BR/>Anyone interested to pursue this subject further, should read <A HREF="http://rightreason.ektopos.com/kimball.html" REL="nofollow">Roger Kimball's</A> books <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Arts-Prospect-Challenge-Tradition-Celebrity/dp/1566635098" REL="nofollow"><I>Art's Prospects: The Challenge of Tradition in an Age of Celebrity</I></A> and <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Rape-Masters-Political-Correctness-Sabotages/dp/1594031215/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-1417578-5695861" REL="nofollow"><I>The Rape of the Masters: How Political Correctness Sabotages Art</I></A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168072964946381282007-01-06T19:42:00.000+11:002007-01-06T19:42:00.000+11:00Good post, reflecting closely my own thoughts on t...Good post, reflecting closely my own thoughts on the subject. <BR/><BR/>In a more traditional culture, an artist indeed had an exemplary role to play, and through his art gave new form and vitality to the culture and society. This of course is not really possible in a market-driven functional "culture" and because of this, art has become meaningless, largely seen as only a form of entertainment, like movies or music. From this follows that alienated, atomized individuals, like many nihilistic artists today, plunge ever deeper into the meaningless, numbing subjectivity, away from the traditional patterns that in a more organic cultures used to aid them to channel their potential more constructively. <BR/><BR/>But however hopeless this situation seems to be, I believe the pendulum will eventually start to swing into another direction again. Any artist, who is today brave and strongwilled enough to reject the dictates of modernity's (dys)functional pseudo-culture, and instead, affirm and work towards the rebirth of the more traditional art, is laying the foundations for the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168060140703094102007-01-06T16:09:00.000+11:002007-01-06T16:09:00.000+11:00Does this story tie in with 'scandalous art'?http:...Does this story tie in with 'scandalous art'?<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/y22xfx<BR/>It's about a polymer-preserved kidney stolen from an art exhibit involving human cadavers.<BR/>To me it shows the depraved state of 'art' today. It's all about the grotesque, the shocking, the jarring, and not about beauty and order as art once was.<BR/>As for 'valamparampil's examples of musical groups. Most of those listed are musicians whose music is a vehicle for their revolutionary ideas, socially or politically. Bob Dylan, I suppose, used a more traditional vehicle at first, doing 'folk' music in the style of Woody Guthrie and Cisco Houston, but he too seemed to be more interested in making a statement than in art for its own sake; I could be wrong, he has made a point of being enigmatic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1168054787896138232007-01-06T14:39:00.000+11:002007-01-06T14:39:00.000+11:00I want to agree with what you say, and certainly i...I want to agree with what you say, and certainly in the visual arts this is true. I don't know of any great painters, and although architects are well known, I don't think their work can inspire as much as an old Church for example. But what about music. I can throw out names for you throughout the decades: The Clash, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Bob Dylan etc. They all seem to be able to capture their audience, and their music does not necessarily attempt to capture the "transcendant" or the traditional aspects of culture. But I could be wrong.Impossible Black Tuliphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10927444971145061482noreply@blogger.com