tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post116151719608888147..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Whiteness studies III - Is it vilification?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-82303400601317126882011-10-15T08:58:33.044+11:002011-10-15T08:58:33.044+11:00Robinder Kaur, for instance, claims that "the...<i>Robinder Kaur, for instance, claims that "there is no 'safe space', no haven of guiltlessness" for whites to retreat to</i><br /><br />In that case, the logical thing to do is... nothing. If it's impossible to be innocent, don't be innocent. If it's impossible to repent, don't repent. <br /><br />Live your own life, defend against their aggression but otherwise ignore them... and have lots of white children, just to spite them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1165993590643776032006-12-13T18:06:00.000+11:002006-12-13T18:06:00.000+11:00To me...as a human born in Los Angeles, CA; U.S.A....To me...as a human born in Los Angeles, CA; U.S.A...with French, Jewish, and German, (on my father's side) and African, Choctaw, and Mexican (on my mother's side)...race IS a social construct. There is no UPROAR from me when (with all that I am composed of) all the WHITE RACIST WORLD SEES is black. There is nothing wrong with being black. The problem is when being black means being treated unjustly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1163758330079680772006-11-17T21:12:00.000+11:002006-11-17T21:12:00.000+11:00Anonymous,Being white and whiteness are not one an...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Being white and whiteness are not one and the same? Then this would mean that I could be white and yet <B>not</B> complicit in the unearned privilege of "whiteness". But this is exactly what whiteness theorists most stridently wish to deny.<BR/><BR/>Robinder Kaur, for instance, claims that "there is no 'safe space', no haven of guiltlessness" for whites to retreat to.<BR/><BR/>In whiteness theory "being white" makes us inevitably complicit in the evil of "whiteness" and so the only posture for a white is a discomforting one of reflexivity.<BR/><BR/>It's an unhealthy, psychologically perverse theory for a white person to adopt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1163561295674809162006-11-15T14:28:00.000+11:002006-11-15T14:28:00.000+11:00You, obviously, don't understand what whiteness st...You, obviously, don't understand what whiteness studies are about. If you knew anything about whiteness studies, you would have learned that being "white" and whiteness are not one and the same. The story about how the Irish became white capturing this point well. Also, if you listen to educated blacks today, you would also know that they continually and fairly ruthlessly critique blackness. Blacks, of course, have had to do this rigorous introspection as a matter of mental health and maintaining some measure of sanity, whites has not had do do this, therefore are almost a century behind in this social study.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1161607736959118562006-10-23T22:48:00.000+10:002006-10-23T22:48:00.000+10:00Iain, I think there's at least one ground for the ...Iain, I think there's at least one ground for the connection you make.<BR/><BR/>Whiteness studies treats whites as the "cosmic enemy" who must be abolished to finally allow the birth of the liberal free and equal "new man".<BR/><BR/>I think it's true that Hitler saw Jews in such terms as a cosmic enemy; now whites are being cast in this role.<BR/><BR/>However, we still have too much clout demographically to suffer the radical forms of mistreatment you describe.<BR/><BR/>If our demographic decline continues, and the vilification persists, then we will be in a more dangerous situation.<BR/><BR/>For more on the idea of the "cosmic enemy" see <A HREF="http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2006/03/are-men-cosmic-enemy.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> (and note in particular Matt's first comment, since it's particularly relevant to this thread).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-1161566209459397192006-10-23T11:16:00.000+10:002006-10-23T11:16:00.000+10:00Another excellent piece here Mark By substituting ...Another excellent piece here Mark <BR/>By substituting Jewish for white in you get this <BR/><I>"we intend to keep bashing the dead Jewish males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as "the Jewish race" is destroyed -- not "deconstructed" but destroyed."</I><BR/><B> Which makes the argument of these racists sound like the neo-Nazis that, they so clearly are. How long before we have our own Krystal Nacht? or are herded through gates that proclaim that work will set us free?</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com