tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post8635344469211156907..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: There is no brakeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-89747396249530268092017-12-30T08:45:00.428+11:002017-12-30T08:45:00.428+11:00The rampant individualism is manifested by the phe...The rampant individualism is manifested by the phenomenon of one-up-manship by which liberals walk on one anothers' necks to signal their superior purity over those who are less pure. This fuels increasing and ever more absurd striving towards purity. <br /><br />This liberal utopianism is what that old tale of Procrustes warned us against. We must return to basics. There is almost no such thing as 'equality'. It only applies to one situation-all men (and by that I mean all members of the human race) are equal in their capacity to sin, and even this generalisation needs to be qualified by such particulars as maturity, sanity and so on, but this latter really only refers to degree of guilt.Michael Leahyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044897013849386271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-66934731803633932622017-12-28T20:37:38.231+11:002017-12-28T20:37:38.231+11:00Mr. Richardson
Excellent!
"It's not pos...Mr. Richardson<br /><br />Excellent!<br /><br />"It's not possible for these liberals to acknowledge the possibility that liberalism, taken too far, might do harm, as liberalism is supposed to take humanity right to its very end point. There can be no "too far"."<br /><br />I particularly liked this part, it is the absolute truth!<br /><br />Mark Moncrieff<br />Upon Hope Blog - A Traditional Conservative Future <br />Mark Moncrieffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988061141727262837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-88225847864396116382017-12-28T10:47:49.382+11:002017-12-28T10:47:49.382+11:00I agree that societal collapse, or military takeov...I agree that societal collapse, or military takeover or invasion by a more intact society will occur before the supposed "end of history" is ever reached. Hence we effectively get "permanent revolution" followed at some point by collapse or defeat.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-91299136321137459242017-12-28T10:44:23.330+11:002017-12-28T10:44:23.330+11:00The immediate problem is to get part of the intell...The immediate problem is to get part of the intelligentsia to break with liberalism. That's not simple given the education system and mass media are geared up to indoctrinate people to be liberal.<br /><br />If we were to reach a point of rebuilding, then, yes, it would be important to think through how the institutions could be structured to best avoid a repeat of the folly of the past century.<br /><br />For me, this means limiting the power of global corporations when it comes to the media and to politics. It also means having a franchise that gives weight to those who are less likely to look to the state for support, and who are more likely to think of themselves as being invested in society and its outcomes. It means too taking care with certain key posts within society (e.g. appointments to the humanities departments) - these should be carefully selected for.<br /><br />There are ways too that the position of men within the family can be either supported or undermined by the way that institutions are structured. You don't want, for instance, the provider role of men to be artificially undermined.<br /><br />You need institutions, too, that are specifically oriented to upholding the goods that a traditionalist society is directed to. This could involve churches, or fraternities, or even "companies of men" dedicated to certain goals.<br /><br />I am a distributist on these issues. I want the average man to have the chance to participate actively in loyalist associations and to contribute his talents in some way to the building of a traditionalist society and culture. <br /><br />The Iranian model is too alien for me to comment on.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-37617456024518454172017-12-28T10:03:52.375+11:002017-12-28T10:03:52.375+11:00Disagree. Left and right liberals do share an unde...Disagree. Left and right liberals do share an underlying philosophical outlook in which millions of atomised, autonomous individuals are supposed to pursue their own subjective wants. So there is no dichotomy at that level. But the question then arises of how you regulate such a society. And this is where the dichotomy comes in. Right liberals think society can be best regulated through the market. Hence they prefer a limited government. Left liberals believe the market leads to inequities. Hence they prefer statist/bureaucratic regulation (by "experts"). There is a clear dichotomy which leads to a passionate political opposition between the two major wings of liberalism, which then gives the false appearance that there is a real choice for voters, when in fact the only choice is between two opposing factions of liberalism.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-72439072984888250012017-12-28T05:13:34.955+11:002017-12-28T05:13:34.955+11:00Excellent! I think the same thing is true of Left...Excellent! I think the same thing is true of Leftist Universalist morality. No matter how destructive of human happiness it becomes it will always be pushed forward to the ultimate end as there is no such thing as being "too moral". This ultimate end is never achieved because there is a societal collapse, or military junta takeover or out right invasion by a more practical society. At least this has always happened so far.RobertBrandywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661602554300651862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-90303433877088341772017-12-28T03:16:20.733+11:002017-12-28T03:16:20.733+11:00The challenge is that society must be structured i...The challenge is that society must be structured in its institutions to be anti-liberal. <br /><br />The US Constitution might ostensibly prescribe a limited government, rather than a welfare state, but it lets a liberal President appoint liberal judges that create liberal precedents. <br /><br />We have one functioning example, that of Iran. It is not an accident there is so much hostility to that government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-76590880436656139562017-12-28T00:57:15.019+11:002017-12-28T00:57:15.019+11:00The terms "right liberalism" and "l...The terms "right liberalism" and "left liberalism" are misrepresentations which imply a dichotomy when there is none. Right and left are distinct opposites. Within liberalism there are no opposites but a spectrum from mild to extreme. The terms Right and Left Liberalism should there fore be replaced with more appropriate terms which reflect their different locations on a scale.<br /><br />Liberalism being a revolutionary ideology has progressive momentum as each stage of the revolution results in inherent instability from which the next revolutionary impetus takes its drive and momentum. It is therefore a continuum, which despite short periods of apparent tranquility, progresses to social collapse. <br /><br />A society can have many forms of liberalism but only one form of tradition. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com