tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post8209405854296953855..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Nick Clegg calls traditional family "absurd"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-17539899152776308482013-03-17T06:51:21.172+11:002013-03-17T06:51:21.172+11:00May I also say, and I know I am not the only perso...May I also say, and I know I am not the only person to comment here who is a lawyer, that the idea that pracising law is some kind of way of fulfilling ones potential (say rather than being a plumber) when in fact most of he time it is highly stressful in a way one would not wish on ones worst enemy, nowhere near as well paid as the man in the street imagines and at least, in my case entirely insecure, seems to be lost on the former arsonist Clegg. The idea that spending ones life either attempting to achieve acquitals for low-lifes or any of the other mundane things lawyers do is some kind of empowerment strikes me as delusional - but then I never wanted to go into law - forced in by parents who had ideas perhaps not unlike Clegg. So who does Clegg think is going to fix the plumbing and clean the streets? - well obviously not the women, and who does he think wants to marry men who stay at home all the time to look after the children - no woman I have ever known.Opusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-14762438078082799182013-03-17T04:46:20.135+11:002013-03-17T04:46:20.135+11:00Clegg, I seem to recall was the person who raised ...Clegg, I seem to recall was the person who raised the rainbow flag above 10 Downing Street and pronounced that indulging in sexual behaviour with someone of ones own sex was 'normal'.Opusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-77082353928330551622013-03-13T20:58:23.457+11:002013-03-13T20:58:23.457+11:00Anon (above),
Interesting observation. Anon (above),<br /><br />Interesting observation. Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-16733275429752146922013-03-13T01:07:44.627+11:002013-03-13T01:07:44.627+11:00You know a civilization is in decline when the nor...You know a civilization is in decline when the normal thing is considered absurd while the absurd thing (men marrying men, for example) is considered normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-15977933443778710072013-03-11T23:04:56.587+11:002013-03-11T23:04:56.587+11:00The idea that those Ethiopian girls are going to b...The idea that those Ethiopian girls are going to be engineers, doctors, lawyers, or prime ministers is frankly absurd.Hehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-85433367235513739572013-03-10T00:34:27.994+11:002013-03-10T00:34:27.994+11:00I'm thinking directing our focus to the three ...I'm thinking directing our focus to the three following classes below is a good point:<br /><br />1 - Underclass minorities such as Blacks & Hispanics (exceptions don't matter as much and should not be used as excuses)<br /><br />2 - Super rich elitist liberals such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.<br /><br />3 - Upper middle class urban liberals (usually white liberal or Asian).<br /><br />This about sums it up. Number #1 provides the protests, the violence and hostility, Number #2 provides funding and money, whereas Number #3 provides the worldview and culture of liberalism.<br /><br />Any ideas on how to approach each of these three groups? And how to defeat them?Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-27212708626128564452013-03-10T00:30:08.997+11:002013-03-10T00:30:08.997+11:00I'm sickened by how elitist liberals like Warr...I'm sickened by how elitist liberals like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates hide their money either overseas and in charities.<br /><br />That's why they always accuse <i>us</i> of hypocrisy and of these type of things.<br /><br />It's because <i>they</i> engage in it. Projection much?<br /><br />It's always projection with modern liberals.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-70220826900098940292013-03-10T00:28:39.332+11:002013-03-10T00:28:39.332+11:00But here's the bottom line: if you're a Br...<i>But here's the bottom line: if you're a British couple in a traditional relationship, when the next election rolls round, remember that Nick Clegg said you are absurd. </i><br /><br />To Anglo liberals, the private and the public can't be interconnected and don't matter. I say that private activities have public consequences and that yes, sometimes, the private and the public are interconnected, albeit in odd ways.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-43217549496124984752013-03-10T00:24:12.543+11:002013-03-10T00:24:12.543+11:00Plus high taxation/socialism policies is basically...Plus high taxation/socialism policies is basically the truly super rich elitists liberals like Bill Gates, who can avoid such taxes, taking money away from the upper middle class liberals and giving it as welfare to the lower class minorities/immigrants such as Blacks and Hispanics.<br /><br />I would say to upper middle class liberals to stop playing their games. They are well-off, but they aren't segregated enough to avoid the downfalls of immigration and diversity.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-18529456914223606792013-03-10T00:20:51.777+11:002013-03-10T00:20:51.777+11:00Most men and women have jobs, not "careers&qu...Most men and women have jobs, not "careers", I agree JMSmith.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-52274164293250819562013-03-09T23:54:59.106+11:002013-03-09T23:54:59.106+11:00Well put, Brendan. Feminists are wont to complain...Well put, Brendan. Feminists are wont to complain that fashion models set unattainable standards for beauty, but no one seems to mind when a man like Clegg sets unattainable standards for career success. As I typed the word "career," I thought how absurd <i>that</i> was. Most people do not have "careers"; they have <i>jobs</i>. Boring, unglamorous, low-paying <i>jobs</i>. For the vast majority of women, the choice is not between high-powered lawyer and stay-at-home mom, it is between cashier and stay-at-home mom. <br /><br />But here's the bottom line: if you're a British couple in a traditional relationship, when the next election rolls round, remember that Nick Clegg said you are <i>absurd</i>. JMSmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-7144877119536532432013-03-09T23:01:38.301+11:002013-03-09T23:01:38.301+11:00It's more of the typical hypocrisy, really. H...It's more of the typical hypocrisy, really. Heartbreaking for men not to be with their kids, but heartbreaking for women to choose to be. That's just digging at men, full stop, really.<br /><br />The broader problem, of course, is that the "programme", as you rightly point out here and as I have done elsewhere in the past, is oriented around the apex of society - the top 5-10%. These people tend to think "if everyone could just be like us, everyone would be alright, and the reason why there are social problems among the plebs is because they are not like us enough".<br /><br />The problem is -- by definition, not everone *can* be "like us". It takes a combination of brains, drive, luck, connections, upbringing, environment, family life and so on to create people "like us". These are not, and never will be, evenly distributed. So to have a philosophy, a worldview, oriented around self-actualization for people who are "like us or who should be more like us" fails for most of the population, who, in any model, are going to be bog standard average.<br /><br />The result is social rules and expectations being set around the apex people, and then the same apex people chiding the "rest of society" for failing to win at a game that only the apex can win.<br /><br />Clearly things worked better as a society when the social/economic rules were oriented around Joe and Jane Average, and what they could achieve, rather than freeing everything up radically so that the most talented and gifted in other ways could rise to the very top, while the average languished. This is not only economically, it is socially as well. They go hand in hand.<br /><br />As long as we have elites obsessed with trying to get everyone else to be like the elites, we will have extreme dysfunction. The role of the elite class -- however it is selected -- is to recognize that it has a special role to play, and that isn't replicating itself among the masses -- because it can't really be done. The role is to set the tone for behaviors that are socially beneficial for all classes. They think that this is what they are doing when they talk like Clegg has, but all they have done is made it obvious how little they understand about what average people need to form and maintain families, as compared to what two City firm lawyers need to do so. And as long as there is that reluctance to admit that the rules should be built around the average and not around the elite, and that instead everyone should become elite, we will have this kind of trashy, dysfunctional gibberish streaming from the mouths of our elites.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-62558911999310221962013-03-09T22:57:17.554+11:002013-03-09T22:57:17.554+11:00I wrote my opinion on these two modern enlightened...I wrote my opinion on these two modern enlightened family models <a href="http://traditionalchristianity.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/gender-roles-industrial-model-vs-modern-model-neither/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-3073826083919177182013-03-09T20:57:49.656+11:002013-03-09T20:57:49.656+11:00If they were men taking leave then it wouldn't...If they were men taking leave then it wouldn't be maternity leave. It would be paternity leave. TimThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10333303180015967125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-50775892681032133542013-03-09T15:16:59.647+11:002013-03-09T15:16:59.647+11:00http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-fighter-and-the...http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-fighter-and-the-forbidden-frittata-20130308-2fqtg.html<br /><br />I thought this piece might interest you, given your travails with Melbourne Catholicism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-31622750280275399462013-03-09T12:20:59.222+11:002013-03-09T12:20:59.222+11:00He's just another left-wing cretin that holds ...He's just another left-wing cretin that holds political office in our crazy world.<br /><br />Do these people ever stop and think about the fact that if their ancestors had practiced feminism, they themselves would likely not be here today?<br /><br />Mark, I also noticed that anti-feminist blogger Claire Khaw is now linking to your blog:<br /><br />http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/why-dont-powerful-men-support-mens.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com