tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post7891330513682580496..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Australian feminist: it was acceptable 50 years ago to hate womenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-48212456579684568832012-10-22T00:58:57.374+11:002012-10-22T00:58:57.374+11:00Changing the past to justify grievances extending ...Changing the past to justify grievances extending endlessly into the future is a continuing feminist project.<br /><br /><a href="http://suewidemark.com/historyinfo/goodwife.htm" rel="nofollow">Good Wife's Guide - really from the 1950's - likely NOT!</a>Daybreakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-15905166358094879642012-10-21T15:11:57.667+11:002012-10-21T15:11:57.667+11:00Wouldn't feminism be misogynist? Why should wo...Wouldn't feminism be misogynist? Why should women adopt "male values" and be like men? Also, isn't transgenderism kind of immoral/weird/unscientific?Elizabeth Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12845055152748702852012-10-21T13:23:36.616+11:002012-10-21T13:23:36.616+11:00Confusing sexism with misogyny, again...Yes. it...Confusing sexism with misogyny, again...Yes. it's true that 50 years ago society was sexist, but misogyny it was not! <br /><br />Husbands certainly *loved* their wives and certainly *respected* the women in the lives and would certainly *defend* their honour, but they did not think it was fitting for their women to enter politics or the workforce. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-5639429709433407502012-10-20T22:19:23.900+11:002012-10-20T22:19:23.900+11:00If I'm called a misogynist, I'll call that...If I'm called a misogynist, I'll call that person a misandrist, and point out that it's the sister word, that deserves the same definition, yet applied to feminist men and women alike. Craignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-56950845062759044612012-10-20T08:28:19.621+11:002012-10-20T08:28:19.621+11:00Interested observer,
It says she was raised in a ...Interested observer,<br /><br />It says she was raised in a home without religious beliefs, with her mother being a lapsed Methodist and uncompromising in her atheism and her father an agnostic and unaware of any religious background, though there is some evidence of his family origins being Jewish.<br /><br />This makes it unlikely that she had a strong Jewish identity that was in conflict with a mainstream Australian one. It's more likely that the problem was that she had nothing to stop her drifting into the developing mainstream intellectual culture of the time.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-65160449452983318522012-10-20T08:03:16.206+11:002012-10-20T08:03:16.206+11:00Interesting notes:
Jane Caro's father's f...Interesting notes:<br /><br />Jane Caro's father's family is Jewish<br /><br />(http://books.google.com.au/books?id=YuRq9zQukLAC&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=Jane+Caro+jew&source=bl&ots=C3_VAb6eTH&sig=_zT2fQd--G7BUY65tTg3BYE-xro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=376BUNrHPI2SiAez-oDoAQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=Jane%20Caro%20jew&f=false)<br /><br />Chloe Angyal, who Bolt has been writing about recently, is also Jewish:<br /><br />(https://twitter.com/ChloeAngyal/status/246951962761900034)<br /><br /><i>"Readers calling me a bad Jew for being prochoice: I'm a bad Jew for lots of real reasons. Go yell at my bacon & cheese breakfast sandwich. "</i>Interested Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-8151716816464967012012-10-19T00:05:20.588+11:002012-10-19T00:05:20.588+11:00feminist theory no longer seems to seek the status...<i>feminist theory no longer seems to seek the status of unchangeable, trans-historical and trans-geographic truth</i><br /><br />Leftism doesn't believe in truth? It only seeks political advantage? Gee, who knew!<br /><br />"unchangeable, trans-historical and trans-geographic truth" is, of course, massively tautological...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-44699680899274571732012-10-18T07:58:50.266+11:002012-10-18T07:58:50.266+11:00A comment at punch on Sue Butler's article.
L...A comment at punch on Sue Butler's article.<br /><br />Let's coin a new word called feminism, <br />misogynist a man with a criticism,<br />sexist who points to the sex schism,<br />power under the garb of equalism.<br /><br />"In other words, feminist theory cannot be accurately regarded as a competing or rival account, diverging from patriarchal texts over what counts as true. It is not a true discourse, nor a more objective or scientific account. It could be appropriately seen, rather, as a strategy, a local, specific intervention with definite political, even if provisional, aims and goals. <br />In the 1980s, feminist theory no longer seems to seek the status of unchangeable, trans-historical and trans-geographic truth in its hypotheses and propositions."<br /><br />http://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~jim/arts.html<br /><br />It's only words and words are all I have, to lead your heart astray...denizenofgoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526928675758785130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-4365907839875567652012-10-18T07:30:42.249+11:002012-10-18T07:30:42.249+11:00What the new definition implies, in other words, i...<i>What the new definition implies, in other words, is that there are now two types of men in Australia: feminists and misogynists.</i><br /><br />That sums it up, as does the last paragraph of anons comment.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-90171543086720201942012-10-18T07:10:38.891+11:002012-10-18T07:10:38.891+11:00It's JANE CARO and her feminist cult that hate...It's JANE CARO and her feminist cult that hate the women of 50+ years ago (and the men who liked them).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-29842212831916967212012-10-18T02:03:47.591+11:002012-10-18T02:03:47.591+11:00I seriously wish I could explain myself and connec...I seriously wish I could explain myself and connect the dots as well as you OZ. <br /><br />I think the leftist agenda understands what it's doing to the family unit as a whole, it understands that when you alienate the male, and force them out of the home you make crime rates and poverty soar. Since liberals believe that poverty is basically patriarchal oppression they'll lobby parliament/congress for more freebies for the "oppressed", therefore the government becomes the big "take care of the citizens" type they want. Marxism at its finest in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-10728832408290679262012-10-17T23:43:56.631+11:002012-10-17T23:43:56.631+11:00Meh, there's no need to drag "autonomy&qu...Meh, there's no need to drag "autonomy" into it. This is all about the ever-leftward ideological drift in the West, and the consequent devaluation of the meaning of "hate". <br /><br />According to nutcases like Caro, anyone who opposes the present-day Leftist/feminist agenda "hates women." If you accept this premise, then yes 50 years ago everyone "hated women," because 50 years ago just about everyone would have regarded the 2012 Leftist/feminist ideology as TOTALLY INSANE.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-37279457652605879092012-10-17T22:47:06.023+11:002012-10-17T22:47:06.023+11:00Under this new definition, there are suddenly many...Under this new definition, there are suddenly many more misogynists in Australia. Hatred of women was relatively rare, limited to men who believed they had suffered great harm at the hands of a particular woman. "Entrenched prejudice" is really just an opinion about women that feminists don't like. What the new definition implies, in other words, is that there are now two types of men in Australia: feminists and misogynists. There's no third option. A misogynist is now anyone a feminist doesn't like.JMSmithnoreply@blogger.com