tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post6792220590639456501..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Angela Nagle: attacking globalism from the other sideUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-19173934377293209802020-09-11T11:33:55.999+10:002020-09-11T11:33:55.999+10:00It puzzles me that you are completely indifferent ...<em>It puzzles me that you are completely indifferent to the harm third world immigration does to Western nations, so much so that you can't see that it IS the high moral ground.</em><br /><br />Arguing that Third World immigration harms western nations is of course correct, but it hasn't been in practice a very effective argument. My view is that arguing that immigration harms <strong>both</strong> western countries <strong>and</strong> Third World countries might have a better chance of success. And might be a much more effective way of taking the high moral ground in a way that might actually have a chance of gaining some traction.<br /><br /><em>You have implicitly taken the anti-White narrative and denied Whites even a say is the damage this does. </em><br /><br />No, I certainly haven't done that. <br /><br /><em>I see no evidence that Nagle is concerned with that.... for the very simple reason that if she was, it would be mentioned, and recognized as THE most compelling issue. AFter all, she literally admits that the impacts of immigration on third world nations is a major issue, but ignores that the impact of immigration on the West isn't just about harm, but SURVIVAL</em><br /><br />It sounds to me like her views on Ireland indicate that she is very much aware of the threat to the West. <br /><br />I don't understand why you would want to attack someone who is making cogent and passionate arguments <strong>against</strong> immigration, which is what she is doing. The anti-immigration movement surely needs all the allies it can get, and she is definitely an ally. Maybe you don't like her emphasis on economic arguments but the fact is that the economic arguments against immigration are extremely strong and they are arguments that have a chance of appealing to ordinary people.<br /><br />Anti-immigration activists have to make a choice - do we continue to make the cultural arguments that are not proving to be very effective or do we broaden our potential base of support by embracing economic arguments <strong>as well</strong>, thus increasing our chances of success? Do we want to win or not?dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-59171232717277002192020-09-10T13:58:01.413+10:002020-09-10T13:58:01.413+10:00It puzzles me that you are completely indifferent ...<br /><br />It puzzles me that you are completely indifferent to the harm third world immigration does to Western nations, so much so that you can't see that it IS the high moral ground.<br /><br />You have implicitly taken the anti-White narrative and denied Whites even a say is the damage this does. THAT is all too common. YOu don't even see it. Why?<br /><br /><br />Every word anti-Whites say in response to the charge of #WhiteGenocide is a justification for that exact policy. <br /><br />I see no evidence that Nagle is concerned with that.... for the very simple reason that if she was, it would be mentioned, and recognized as THE most compelling issue. AFter all, she literally admits that the impacts of immigration on third world nations is a major issue, but ignores that the impact of immigration on the West isn't just about harm, but SURVIVAL<br /><br /><br /><br />cecilhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295507329028875050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-30394287110623889652020-09-10T01:26:56.229+10:002020-09-10T01:26:56.229+10:00NOte, as just one example, that their concern is w...<em>NOte, as just one example, that their concern is with how many Ethiopian doctors there are in Chicago, and how that effects Ethiopia, but not historic Americans IN CHIGAGO or America.</em><br /><br />I think you're being a little unfair. It's possible to be concerned with the effects of immigration on both the West and on Third World countries and it sounds to me like Angela Nagle is concerned by both.<br /><br />And if you're looking for an effective argument against immigration that is difficult to refute then the argument that it harms Third World countries is a very potent argument. It has the advantage of being an argument that allows anti-immigrationists to take the high more ground.<br /><br />It puzzles me that so many anti-immigration people just do not seem interested in using arguments that might actually work.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-17538398620864897982020-09-09T08:42:57.424+10:002020-09-09T08:42:57.424+10:00These leftists may be opposed to open borders, but...These leftists may be opposed to open borders, but it has nothing to do with the racial and ethnic intersts of the people's in those countries of their long term survival and interets.<br /><br />They are opposed to that, or indifference at best, and would be not be opposed to the destruction of the West if it brought about the economic and social conditions they deem desirable.<br /><br />NOte, as just one example, that their concern is with how many Ethiopian doctors there are in Chicago, and how that effects Ethiopia, but not historic Americans IN CHIGAGO or America.<br /><br />THAT never occurs to them. And there is a HUGE difference in that.cecilhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295507329028875050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-40791593217525390222020-09-08T21:24:07.170+10:002020-09-08T21:24:07.170+10:00Well, you would be absolutely wrong about that.Well, you would be absolutely wrong about that.RobertBrandywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661602554300651862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-8399295002107256192020-09-08T10:58:52.333+10:002020-09-08T10:58:52.333+10:00I've always maintained that Open Borders is fu...I've always maintained that Open Borders is fundamentally a right-wing ideology.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com