tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post611886141475663660..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Emma Thompson, old white men and ancient virtuesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-7459324232164502222016-02-19T05:50:27.837+11:002016-02-19T05:50:27.837+11:00Absolutely true. The First World War was the final...Absolutely true. The First World War was the final end of the old traditional order and the collapse of European Christian Civilisation. The disintegration over the last 100 years has been rapid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-42634536292280998702016-02-18T19:48:34.859+11:002016-02-18T19:48:34.859+11:00I don’t think western civilisation ever recovered ...I don’t think western civilisation ever recovered from the shocks of the mid to late 18th century - the Enlightenment, the American Revolution, the French Revolution and the Industrial Revolution. All these phenomena had a good deal in common - a rejection of tradition, a rejection of traditional social hierarchies, a rejection of religion. They ushered in the cult of the new - of progress.<br /><br />And the trouble with “progress” is that it’s a roller coaster and once you’re on the roller coaster you can’t get off. Progress must continue, forever. The old must be continually replaced by the new. <br /><br />There was still plenty of resistance to these pernicious ideas in the 19th century but those who opposed the trend were more and more on the defensive. The First World War was pretty much the end. The cult of social progress was firmly established. Hollywood was in the vanguard - the contribution of Hollywood to the destruction of civilisation from the 1920s onwards is hugely underestimated. Hollywood was aggressively liberal and “progressive” right from the start.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-21230278982720238032016-02-18T07:36:54.827+11:002016-02-18T07:36:54.827+11:00Yes, it is the crucial issue. It should be remembe...Yes, it is the crucial issue. It should be remembered that it was not just one generation which suddenly decided to abandon traditional values. One generation would take things so far, decide that things had "gone far enough" but then the next generation would seek to take things further. We've seen this in our own times. It was about two generations ago in Australia that a traditional national community was given up on. One generation ago no fault divorce came in. In our own generation we have the whole transsexual thing. The same principle gets pushed along bit by bit to an increasingly radical degree.<br /><br />The process started a long time ago. If you look at the case of the US, for instance, then there was a type of classical liberalism that was being held alongside more traditional values from at least the early to mid 1800s. <br /><br />For much of the 1900s, Anglo politics was contained within liberal parameters: people passionately supported either a left liberalism or a right liberalism. Hardly anyone stepped outside of these parameters. Even if people felt that things were going the wrong way they would blame "the other liberalism" rather than liberalism itself.<br /><br />People have struggled to articulate a non-liberal view - we are only just seeing now a real attempt to do this, very late in the piece. Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-44738695130203280262016-02-17T22:01:59.703+11:002016-02-17T22:01:59.703+11:00That is the crucial issue. Why did most of the old...That is the crucial issue. Why did most of the older generation abandon the traditional values and behaviours which their ancestors had maintained for centuries? What induced them to abdicate their responsibilities and allow civilisation to collapse?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-32749824793136561432016-02-17T21:36:35.743+11:002016-02-17T21:36:35.743+11:00Anon, the problem is that the older generations al...Anon, the problem is that the older generations also held to the same liberal belief in a certain kind of freedom - a freedom to self-define or self-determine. It then becomes very difficult in a principled way to hold the younger generations to any kind of standard - not if your fundamental principle is a belief that the key value in life is choosing your own standards. Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-3933324809644983052016-02-17T01:26:00.114+11:002016-02-17T01:26:00.114+11:00Men abandoned masculinity and masculine values at ...Men abandoned masculinity and masculine values at the point when the older and younger generations split and young men were granted freedom from the control of their elders. <br /><br />Young men have always been naive and reckless, impulsive and lacking in wisdom, maturity and experience. Traditional societies, accordingly, never allowed young men freedom. Older men, the Patriarchs or Elders of societies and families, set down the traditions and values of societies and imposed these on all members. Young men were coerced initially into obedience to their Elders and society and then to focusing their energies and resources on the common good as defined by their Elders. Men who violated the standards were excluded from society.<br /><br />In this way men had values, traditions and standards of conduct imposed upon them with penalties for disobedience. Young men were effectively controlled by older men.<br /><br />The 20th century saw that system break down and older men failed to maintain standards and impose them on the younger generations. The younger men were given "freedom" and allowed to violate all standards of behaviour, "do their own thing" and run amok. The consequences are before us now. Weak, hedonistics, effeminate, degenerate men who lack the will to maintain their own countries' borders, religions, cultures and traditions.<br /><br />That of course is the aim of the elites because weak men are easy to control. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com