tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post5880357723389428892..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Now this is sex war!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-55093245942314326622010-03-02T22:17:23.772+11:002010-03-02T22:17:23.772+11:00Anonymous Friday, 21 August 2009 9:13:00 AM AEST
W...Anonymous Friday, 21 August 2009 9:13:00 AM AEST<br />Well what do you expect when all you want are young hotties? Young hotties are the worst marriage prospects around for a man with money. If you were willing to marry a decent, educated woman your own age you wouldn't have that problem. Young hotties are greedheads and don't understand that marriage is an economic partnership, not a credit card qualifier for Neiman Marcus, and other men will try to poach them too. <- Your argument is full of inconsistencies.<br />"All you want are the young hotties?" <- Each man sees each woman differently. We're all individuals who have different standards of what is hot. But we can agree on what's ugly, and that's a woman that has forsaken morality and sees the man as a meal ticket and walking ATM.<br />"Young hotties are the worst marriage prospects around for a man with money." <- Women don't want poor men. Not usually. And the men are poor when young, so it's a chicken-egg situation.<br />"If you were willing to marry a decent, educated woman your own age you wouldn't have that problem." <- Women that age are decent only because they can't get the player's attention any more. Educated? Maybe on the seamier side of life or the entitlement train. They've also picked up how to become liars and game-players from their many boyfriends and attendant female clique.<br />"Young hotties are greedheads and don't understand that marriage is an economic partnership, not a credit card qualifier for Neiman Marcus, and other men will try to poach them too." <- So the older women who were unable to previously take men seriously are now capable of being faithful? If you're going to get divorced, might as well do so with the youngest and most beautiful (legally) girl you can. People don't own the other person in a relationship, eventhough you make it out that is the way it should be. You cherrypick the worst of patriarchy, and use it to justify complete female licentiousness. Your arguments are deceptive.P Raynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-85401746195101689832009-09-15T23:44:27.406+10:002009-09-15T23:44:27.406+10:00This is awful- absolutely no one seems to care abo...This is awful- absolutely no one seems to care about love! Has anyone posting these comments ever felt human emotion, or are you just listing the qualities you want in your imaginary girlfriend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-29663197001302167302009-08-31T04:21:15.504+10:002009-08-31T04:21:15.504+10:00The overwhelming majority of women left comments o...The overwhelming majority of women left comments of one of two types, or occasionally combining them:<br /><br />1) It's far better to lie. One woman's suggestion was to figure out how many past lovers she would be likely to ever mention to her intended life partner, and stick with that;<br /><br />2) the second was feminist belitting of men for caring, and often implying that they must be sexually inadequate or they wouldn't care.<br /><br />If looking through those comments doesn't convince you that surveys indicating the media or average number of lovers women have had are utter rubbish, because women with big or even fairly high numbes will lie through their teeth even on anonymous surveys, then you're beyond the react of realism.Doug1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-8827776492353019462009-08-29T12:51:56.373+10:002009-08-29T12:51:56.373+10:00-----------------------------------
That is exactl...-----------------------------------<br />That is exactly right. They don't have any uses for women except as child breeders and sex objects. The only female qualities they value are youth and beauty. They consider any woman over the age of 25 as worthless. Read their blogs; it's all there.<br /><br />++++++++++++<br /><br />Indeed, the 'pragmatism' displayed comes accross quite dehumanising. Part of being human is breaking some of the 'genetic' chains, and taking ownership over your behaiviour, your predispositions and make rational, thought out choices. Instead, they view everything as nothing more than genetically programmed mechanics and treat relationships with people strictly at this level. There is more to being human than just being a DNA replicating machine.AssemblyLineHumannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-56144714700365888822009-08-24T15:10:28.758+10:002009-08-24T15:10:28.758+10:00Unfortunately for both participants the clock is t...Unfortunately for both participants the clock is ticking and will eventually stop..<br />For the man, the idea of a women having bonked half the city is about as appealing as going to the abattoir for a steak..<br />For the woman, now is the time (over 30)to spawn and I want it now regardless of the fact that I have been incapable of holding onto any type of relationship with the opposite sex..<br /><br />What a great option, the only one that would appear to make sense would be to just give it a miss and hope there are some sane women left..Christian J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03014163016311166331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-65466802006317168082009-08-22T16:15:42.983+10:002009-08-22T16:15:42.983+10:00"Very well said, Mr. Richardson. This is why ..."Very well said, Mr. Richardson. This is why beta men in their thirties (this guy is a beta - any 34-year old man with that few partners in this hedonistic era is) should not settle for their same-aged peers."<br /><br />I'm sorry but this feeds the whole feminist "men are wankers" idea which had helped put men in this mess in the first place. I'm certainly not going to give some big ego lefty women the satisfaction of thinking she's got some moral superiority over me that's for sure.<br /><br />Contrary to the belief of a lot of junvenile nerds who read game theory blogs some relatively attractive men actually do restain themselves for ethnical or ideological reasons.Mike Courtmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226171376902020196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-47308443081810541872009-08-21T09:13:58.989+10:002009-08-21T09:13:58.989+10:00Men don't commit, because women don't real...Men don't commit, because women don't really commit. In a no-fault system, the woman can unilaterally get up and walk away, helping herself to 1/2 the guy's assets, and good chunk of his future earnings (alimony) in the process.<br />----------------------------------<br />Well what do you expect when all you want are young hotties? Young hotties are the worst marriage prospects around for a man with money. If you were willing to marry a decent, educated woman your own age you wouldn't have that problem. Young hotties are greedheads and don't understand that marriage is an economic partnership, not a credit card qualifier for Neiman Marcus, and other men will try to poach them too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-59306746947648613262009-08-21T08:59:25.256+10:002009-08-21T08:59:25.256+10:00Anonymous 3: Obviously, you don't fall into th...Anonymous 3: Obviously, you don't fall into that "used up" category.<br />-----------------------------------<br />I heard all the same biologically reductive terms thrown at me when I was looking for my husband. "used up," "past her prime," etc. Didn't make the task of finding someone easier, just made it that much harder. And yes I know many other educated, professional women in their 30s and 40s who are married and having children, and are in happy marriages. Where I live, they (and Third World immigrants supported by welfare) are the only people who can afford to!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-51682750697636290042009-08-21T05:49:11.909+10:002009-08-21T05:49:11.909+10:00Anon: "such a case, the woman is mainly at fa...Anon: "such a case, the woman is mainly at fault - she should have insisted on marriage much earlier - but the man is also to blame for taking advantage of the situation. Men's "failure to commit" is a cliche and, I'm sure, is the main factor that women would cite to explain the problem, but surely it is a real issue."<br /><br />Men don't commit, because women don't really commit. In a no-fault system, the woman can unilaterally get up and walk away, helping herself to 1/2 the guy's assets, and good chunk of his future earnings (alimony) in the process.<br /><br />You don't believe me? Check this out:<br />http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/special_reports/paying_alimony_forever_081209<br /><br />So what you are saying is "REAL MEN SHOULD COMMIT" in the manner described by the other posters above. Why commit, when the other party isn't held to their commitment, but only *you* are financially/legally held to yours?<br /><br />A one-way commitment, is an idiotic commitment. No man should sign such a one-way contract. None.Pumanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-32716485970607697102009-08-20T11:56:38.096+10:002009-08-20T11:56:38.096+10:00re: 35 and Married
Obviously, you don't fall ...re: 35 and Married<br /><br />Obviously, you don't fall into that "used up" category. That's why I made an adjectival distinction. Your acting on a natural desire to commit has lead to a superior quality of life. Isn't that the purpose of conservatism? Recognition of our nature and acting in accord with it for the purpose of improvement. <br /><br />This is one of Liberalism's big lies, that it alone can lead human beings to greater happiness. One other point, exceptions don't make the rule, that's a common Liberal tactic; not to sound overly critical please consider making your arguments from statistical rather than anecdotal references. <br /><br />Anonymous 3...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-92023180652533323882009-08-20T11:36:32.582+10:002009-08-20T11:36:32.582+10:00Any women who uses the line "a real man would...Any women who uses the line "a real man would" should be expunged from your life.<br />-----------------------------------<br />The same for any man using this line on any woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-30690198549444746732009-08-20T11:35:07.532+10:002009-08-20T11:35:07.532+10:00Here is a simple rule. Anyone who tries to get you...Here is a simple rule. Anyone who tries to get you to do, believe or accept anything using an appeal to the "real man" is your enemy. They do not have your interest at heart. Even if they don't admit it to themselves they are trying to get you to act for their interest against your own.<br /><br />Any women who uses the line "a real man would" should be expunged from your life.<br /><br />PeterBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-14846214036046227262009-08-20T08:33:21.107+10:002009-08-20T08:33:21.107+10:00Used up women, no matter how attractive they remai...Used up women, no matter how attractive they remain are no competition for any twenty five year old who knows the value of exclusive access to her youth.<br />-----------------------------------<br />I did not marry until age 35 and I married a younger man when I did; I did not "sleep around," just had a social disability that made dating and social interaction very difficult for me. My husband did not consider me "used up" and I am fiercely loyal to him. Many men in our circle who married for "exclusive access" to some young woman's youth are now stuck with financial problems because the "exclusive access" came with a large price tag. We, on the other hand, have built a large foundation of wealth together and are envied for our stable marriage and healthy financial position. We also have a beautiful daughter who will never be allowed anywhere near a "game" player, if we can help it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12951691091502779712009-08-20T07:01:49.080+10:002009-08-20T07:01:49.080+10:00"Your attitudes towards women come across les..."Your attitudes towards women come across less like responsible conservatives and more like guys who were rejected by a chick at age 15 and have held a grudge every since."<br /><br />How typically iLberal, to reduce any reservation or misgiving about human conduct to be rooted in some irrational adolescent event. <br /><br />One of the most striking pathologies I've observed in Liberalism is to misidentify the temporary as permanent and the permanent as temporary. <br /><br />Previous behaviour is a pretty reliable indicator as to what a person will repeat in the future. <br />Being selfish is a hallmark of liberal thinking, as natural as eating. <br /><br />Used up women, no matter how attractive they remain are no competition for any twenty five year old who knows the value of exclusive access to her youth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-79543922793803810552009-08-20T01:59:26.070+10:002009-08-20T01:59:26.070+10:00Absolutely. We are whatever we are because you hav...Absolutely. We are whatever we are because you have made us that way. Sperm chases the egg and you can direct any complaints to evolution.<br />-----------------------------------<br />Yes, and it sounds like this attitude has made you a very, very happy person indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-38103546761107026682009-08-19T22:47:10.958+10:002009-08-19T22:47:10.958+10:001. The woman is lying. She has likely had many mo...1. The woman is lying. She has likely had many more than 40 partners, she has simply lost count and is rounding down.<br /><br />2. She may also have presented herself to her new man as a woman of virtue. The truth of unpaid whore is what is turningthe man away. <br /><br />3. In any event, the man deserves to know the truth, or to know that he will never know the truth, which is also more information that he has now with her lie of "10". <br /><br />4. With the promiscuous woman comes increased risk of disease, fertility risks, and the risk of running into old "boyfriends". It would be an intollerable humiliation for the man to discover after the wedding that he had married the town bicycle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-63012053163060926282009-08-19T17:38:18.231+10:002009-08-19T17:38:18.231+10:00assuming she started having sex at 16 (could be ev...assuming she started having sex at 16 (could be even younger) that makes for over 2 partners per year. So until now her average relationship lasted under 6 months tops. And thats also assuming she hasn't been single for any length of time.<br /><br />But NOW she's ready to commit to a relationship that should last about 40 years or more...<br /><br />riiiiightOekedullekenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-13213747721955300142009-08-19T16:25:20.492+10:002009-08-19T16:25:20.492+10:00Yes Haha, these men have reservations about marryi...Yes Haha, these men have reservations about marrying strong independent womyn who have avaraged 40+ cocks on the odometer, because they are insecure losers who can't get laid. Makes so much sense now.<br /><br />It sounds like you probably have quite a few miles on the odometer yourself. Go buy some cats you old hag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-11090546355240156772009-08-19T15:41:25.807+10:002009-08-19T15:41:25.807+10:00"Your attitudes towards women come across les..."Your attitudes towards women come across less like responsible conservatives and more like guys who were rejected by a chick at age 15 and have held a grudge every since."<br /><br />Meh. It's not the rejections by women - of which there were plenty - so much as the lack of affordable family formation.<br /><br />I couldn't afford to start a family when I was young and horny. If I had been presented with the opportunity, I would have taken it. Instead I saved up money.<br /><br />Now I might spend that money on a woman and kids -- but you know what? I *wanted* kids when I was 27. I don't feel the same desire now.<br /><br />Yeah, I *might* date. I don't have a need for sex, but maybe the company will be charming. If I do, I'll start a blog called "How a Grumpy Creepy Grudge-Holding guy can date women 20 years Younger Than He Is."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-77018757726375147052009-08-19T15:15:27.707+10:002009-08-19T15:15:27.707+10:00The only female qualities they value are youth and...The only female qualities they value are youth and beauty. They consider any woman over the age of 25 as worthless. Read their blogs; it's all there.<br />---<br /><br />Absolutely. We are whatever we are because you have made us that way. Sperm chases the egg and you can direct any complaints to evolution.<br /><br />And regarding the betas all I have to say is that sheep get sheared.Lee Ving's Nicer Brothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-14048860164671697492009-08-19T13:53:47.738+10:002009-08-19T13:53:47.738+10:00We men must also take some responsibility for this...We men must also take some responsibility for this awful mess. Too many times a couple will be in a long-term relationship throughout their 20s, usually cohabiting, but no marriage, and then sometime in the early 30s, the relationship ends. At that stage, the man is well placed to start again, but for the women to move back to square one, when she is now past her prime, is a much more difficult proposition. In such a case, the woman is mainly at fault - she should have insisted on marriage much earlier - but the man is also to blame for taking advantage of the situation. Men's "failure to commit" is a cliche and, I'm sure, is the main factor that women would cite to explain the problem, but surely it is a real issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-43491507795250470252009-08-19T13:30:57.229+10:002009-08-19T13:30:57.229+10:00I have to say it. Your attitudes towards women com...I have to say it. Your attitudes towards women come across less like responsible conservatives and more like guys who were rejected by a chick at age 15 and have held a grudge every since.<br />-----------------------------------<br />That is exactly right. They don't have any uses for women except as child breeders and sex objects. The only female qualities they value are youth and beauty. They consider any woman over the age of 25 as worthless. Read their blogs; it's all there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-42019920685867435652009-08-19T11:38:58.791+10:002009-08-19T11:38:58.791+10:00I have to say it. Your attitudes towards women com...I have to say it. Your attitudes towards women come across less like responsible conservatives and more like guys who were rejected by a chick at age 15 and have held a grudge every since.HaHanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-81513233722348895592009-08-19T07:29:42.022+10:002009-08-19T07:29:42.022+10:00Some of these phenomena may be the symptom more th...Some of these phenomena may be the symptom more than the disease. If you have a society that valourises instant gratification and quick fixes to profound problems, and a society that has pinned its hopes to a mixture of narcissism and consumerism, in which it is quite normal to view human relationships as merely instrumental, then your town trollops and Ibiza trashbags are bound to turn up.<br /><br />Anne Manne is a good writer, and I'm glad to see her cited here. Contra Strocchi, though, reducing the problem to one of 'liberalism', or, even more ridiculously, to 'postmodernism', is really only telling a small part of the story.THRhttp://lacomplaintedupartisan.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-52750464462050113422009-08-19T05:59:10.808+10:002009-08-19T05:59:10.808+10:00"The problem, Anonymous, is that that is incr..."The problem, Anonymous, is that that is increasingly difficult, as women that age have become increasingly unavailable for marriage. I've commented elsewhere on how, even in conservative evangelical churches, the attractive, under 25 set are not willing to settle for a provider nice guy but instead are holding out for the alphas they have crushes on."<br /><br />These men (and I was once one) should, then, continuing looking at the under 25 crowd, and never settle for some playered-out older woman. The message should be sent that these women have made themselves unsuitable for marriage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com