tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post5590004289255729794..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: What kind of marriage makes women happiest?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-33436329401043873112007-04-15T04:01:00.000+10:002007-04-15T04:01:00.000+10:00The reality is that women who pursue a career are ...The reality is that women who pursue a career are older by the time they marry and probably find it harder to find men who will support them being 'just' homemakers. <BR/>I wouldn't marry a woman who wanted me to do all the bread winning because I like what I do for work and I don't make a heck of a lot. <BR/>And let's face it!!! If you don't include Student Loan figures for these "so called" married women, you aren't doing really sociology.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771944484286659825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-17320415837771160892007-04-05T10:44:00.000+10:002007-04-05T10:44:00.000+10:00I'm wary of any conscious pursuit of happiness, or...<I>I'm wary of any conscious pursuit of happiness, or of a self-evaluation of happiness. Those tend to degenerate into anecdote battles of subjectivity and ephemeral good-feeling.</I><BR/><BR/>Jaz, I agree. The point of quoting the findings of the research project is to show that the liberal view of marriage doesn't work within the terms of liberalism itself.<BR/><BR/>This doesn't mean that we should follow liberals and justify social policy in terms of the individual pursuit of happiness. <BR/><BR/>For instance, I doubt if too many traditionalists would accept a man leaving his wife and child on the basis that he would be happier with some other woman (even if it were true that he would be happier).<BR/><BR/>We have had, though, influential second-wave feminists claiming that traditional women were frustrated and unhappy in their marriages and that they would be more content pursuing a genderless form of marital partnership.<BR/><BR/>The research just doesn't support these claims.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-35904126977563671182007-04-05T04:08:00.000+10:002007-04-05T04:08:00.000+10:00I'm wary of any conscious pursuit of happiness, or...I'm wary of any conscious pursuit of happiness, or of a self-evaluation of happiness. Those tend to degenerate into anecdote battles of subjectivity and ephemeral good-feeling. Mr. Richardson's description of liberalism as self-definition fits perfectly here.<BR/><BR/>We need a more objective and external criterion, such as "is it ordered or disordered?" This is where tradition and religion come into play.<BR/><BR/>In this context, we see that liberalism says, "there is no order."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-31710382183249941502007-04-05T00:30:00.000+10:002007-04-05T00:30:00.000+10:00women are happier in traditional, gender-based mar...<I>women are happier in traditional, gender-based marriages</I><BR/><BR/>I can really only comment for myself, but I'd say I'm very happy in our marriage, which is traditional in many respects.<BR/><BR/>Although as human beings men and women have a lot in common, I did discover after a few years of marriage that men and women are also quite different. <BR/><BR/>IMO, both the similarities and differences can contribute to real and lasting love in a marriage if both spouses are prepared to work at it.<BR/><BR/>Just my personal reflection fwiw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com