tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post4674276468165903241..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: The American image of Australian menUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-46899129561680538932008-12-19T07:11:00.000+11:002008-12-19T07:11:00.000+11:00CS, an impressive comment, thanks. One pleasing de...CS, an impressive comment, thanks. One pleasing development I've observed over the past couple of years is an increase in the number of intelligent and capable people making a contribution. This won't have the effect of changing the mainstream culture, but it will help the process of gathering together those who still identify with their own tradition.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-34658364237168229702008-12-18T03:32:00.000+11:002008-12-18T03:32:00.000+11:00Mark, you are, of course, correct. Western men no ...Mark, you are, of course, correct. Western men no longer see themselves as the upholders or defenders of a particular ethnic, cultural or civilisational tradition, simply because they no longer identify with any particular traditions.<BR/><BR/>Hence the reason why traditional Western society is failing - it's historical guardians have turned their backs on their heritage, their people and their civilisation. We're all just atomised individuals now, after all.<BR/><BR/>One thing that has struck me during my dealings with other peoples and cultures is the tribalism practised by nearly every non-Western culture. <BR/><BR/>We individualistic, post-ethnic Westerners, especially those of us descended from the remarkably non-ethnocentric English (makes you wonder how they ever survived at all as an ethnic group), tend to look down as such tribalism. Yet our rejection of such ethnic and cultural attachments is depriving Western men of their traditional roles as the patriarchs of a particular "tribe", and depriving Westerners, in general, of a continued existence as a distinct people.Citizen Sanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00386005570849066963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-23013427834319116762008-12-17T22:51:00.000+11:002008-12-17T22:51:00.000+11:00Lawrence Auster has restated the problem with clar...Lawrence Auster has restated the problem with clarity and force in his second comment. It's much appreciated.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, definitely. Perhaps this helps to explain why many women become more conservative after they marry - they begin to recognise that they have a common interest with their husbands.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-45008992400193550152008-12-17T16:23:00.000+11:002008-12-17T16:23:00.000+11:00if you discriminate against white men and attempt ...if you discriminate against white men and attempt to block their success aren't you also discriminating against their wives and children?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-55416882707216413552008-12-17T11:15:00.000+11:002008-12-17T11:15:00.000+11:00The idea is that being a middle-class man in liber...The idea is that being a middle-class man in liberal society means taking care of your personal business, your personal responsibiliiees, taking care of your family. But it doesn't mean protecting the institution of the family itself. It doesn't mean being a leader and defender of society. And that's why Western men are small and shrunken and lack force.Lawrence Austerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10849202044663080776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-84723764659854919562008-12-17T10:56:00.000+11:002008-12-17T10:56:00.000+11:00What Mr. Richardson said is so important I just wa...What Mr. Richardson said is so important I just want to repeat it: <BR/><BR/>"[T]he image Australian middle-class men have of their role in life is too confined. To be a good and successful man means succeeding in your career, having a family, having a nice house and perhaps contributing to a charity for poor people overseas.... <BR/><BR/>"But what is missing is any sense that these men have a larger, civilisational role in society. There is no expectation that middle-class men will act to uphold the best aspects of the tradition they were born into; or that they will act in the public sphere to defend institutions like the family; or that they will identify more widely with [their] national tradition..."Lawrence Austerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10849202044663080776noreply@blogger.com