tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post4285043706112838366..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Luhrmann's low actUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-25412907347573723132008-12-05T00:39:00.000+11:002008-12-05T00:39:00.000+11:00When it comes to Aborigines the line changes: sudd...<I>When it comes to Aborigines the line changes: suddenly the decline of a traditional monoculture is a grave loss to the world. There is no talk of Aborigines being enriched by diversity or by the transition to a multiculture.</I><BR/><BR/>Nor does anyone accuse the Aboriginals of "racism" or "xenophobia" for trying to expel and kill the early European settlers.<BR/><BR/>If "diversity" is so wonderful, then the arrival of the British should have been a wonderous blessing for the diversity-starved Aboriginal tribes. <BR/><BR/>The fact that the multicultural brigade never makes this argument seems to suggest that "diversity" is something only white Australians are obliged to accept and celebrate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-60575426260761143532008-12-05T00:18:00.000+11:002008-12-05T00:18:00.000+11:00But this country was invaded.This "country" to whi...<I>But this country was invaded.</I><BR/><BR/>This "country" to which you refer didn't exist prior to the arrival of the British. Modern education may have left many Australians shockingly ignorant of history, but the indisputable reality is that the nation-state known as "Australia" is a British creation.<BR/><BR/>The Aboriginals may have been living on this continent prior to the arrival of the First Fleet, but they never had their own nation-states in the territory that would become Australia. The various disparate tribes that we now refer to collectively as the "Aboriginals" never had any concept of nationhood and were certainly never the single, united people that they now claim to be.<BR/><BR/>Using Savvas' logic, we could argue that his Greek ancestors "stole" their country from the pre-Greek Minoans and, thus, have no legitimate right to assert themselves as the historic majority people of that particular country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-30208784748840175982008-12-03T19:04:00.000+11:002008-12-03T19:04:00.000+11:00Savvas, my attitude is straightforward and consist...Savvas, my attitude is straightforward and consistent.<BR/><BR/>I would like the Aborigines to survive into the future as a distinct people; I would like my own tradition to do likewise.<BR/><BR/>Australia is a big country, so I don't see why we couldn't have worked toward this.<BR/><BR/>Liberals are inconsistent. They tell white Australians that a traditional monoculture is boring and oppressive and that diversity and multiculturalism are enriching.<BR/><BR/>When it comes to Aborigines the line changes: suddenly the decline of a traditional monoculture is a grave loss to the world. There is no talk of Aborigines being enriched by diversity or by the transition to a multiculture.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-53341211885531279922008-12-03T15:53:00.000+11:002008-12-03T15:53:00.000+11:00My assumptions that they were better off prior to ...My assumptions that they were better off prior to white settlement?<BR/><BR/>That I believe the Stolen Generation?<BR/><BR/>Sorry, mate. You have the wrong person. Where have I stated this?<BR/><BR/>But this country was invaded. <BR/><BR/>The liberals, since they have control of the media and entertainment industry, are letting us down by not showing the truth.<BR/><BR/>But you would rather not see this truth. But I am not sure what you or the author of this blog want to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-13015217528222905302008-12-03T15:36:00.000+11:002008-12-03T15:36:00.000+11:00SavvasYour assumption that pre-Settlement Australi...Savvas<BR/><BR/>Your assumption that pre-Settlement Australia was the Garden of Eden only makes you sound like a tit. Aborigines were happily bashing their women and abusing their children long before the arrival of the first whitefella. They didn't need any government programme to assist in their laborious endeavours. In fact, the programme that sought to remove children from Indigenous communities was intended to save Indigenous children from the rich cultural practices of the Noble Savages "Baz" and his ilk, you included, seem to worship.<BR/><BR/>As Mr. Richardson stated, claims that the 'Stolen Generation' was the consequence of an Australia-wide government programme to commit genocide against the Aborigines is a lie, and mainly based on the comment of one twisted public official, who is then supported by a hysterical mob of cheer-leaders among the white-guilt industry and various Indigenous Australians with a political axe to grind.<BR/><BR/>If this is the kind of evidence that can substantiate such a sweeping and gratuitous claim, especially in the face of substantial evidence to the contrary, then you can basically take any statement of any public official and use that to prove anything you want on any topic. All you need is the media on your side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-74180818099386421482008-12-03T11:36:00.000+11:002008-12-03T11:36:00.000+11:00"Get over it", aye?You must be a lovely person to ..."Get over it", aye?<BR/><BR/>You must be a lovely person to socialise with.<BR/><BR/>Such an easy way to deal with all these issues.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Baz is one of those wishy washy liberals who if he was fully aware of the controversial facts surrounding the 'Stolen Generation', and if he had the guts could have said, "Well, if they weren't stolen, how did we get to this position where we had to remove them? Is it because we stole the land in thr first place? If so, maybe I should incorporate that into the movie instead?"<BR/><BR/>That would be a FACT, not a LIE like you and Bolt claim the Stolen Generation is.<BR/><BR/>But of course people like Bolt, would then change the goal posts.<BR/><BR/>If you want to kick liberals, go ahead, they deserve it to some extent, but why use the aboriginals plight as a football?<BR/><BR/>SavvasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-51038463348622357272008-12-03T09:06:00.000+11:002008-12-03T09:06:00.000+11:00Savvas,You've missed the point entirely, of course...Savvas,<BR/><BR/>You've missed the point entirely, of course.<BR/><BR/>His movie wasn't about 'stolen land', it was about 'Australia'.<BR/><BR/>This land was settled, not stolen. And even if we are to accept the proposition that it was invaded, under both English and international law, territory can indeed be acquired via conquest. Get over it.<BR/><BR/>The heinous nature of the movie resides in the fact that it has taken a controversial matter, i.e. the existence of a 'stolen generation', mythologised it into a movie, and made it into many people's first contact with Australian history overseas.<BR/><BR/>This is a very simple example of the curious mixture of (a) liberal self-hatred, and (b) elite narcissism.<BR/><BR/>Self hatred insofar as the almost religious unquestioned acceptance of the fact that there was a policy to commit genocide in Australia.<BR/><BR/>Elite narcissism insofar as these people, unelected and in most part uneducated (unless you consider a 'progressive education' educative in any way) clearly see themselves as the custodians of truth and conscience (a strange thing for moral relativists too).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-65851833307758828832008-12-03T08:34:00.000+11:002008-12-03T08:34:00.000+11:00Maybe Baz should just have made a movie about the ...Maybe Baz should just have made a movie about the 'Stolen Land'.<BR/><BR/>Is that a myth? Name ten!!! Just ten aborigines who had their land stolen.<BR/><BR/>This is a fraudulent post.<BR/><BR/>SavvasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-50180825104365966822008-12-02T23:06:00.000+11:002008-12-02T23:06:00.000+11:00If the snake-oil peddlers like "Baz" want to belie...If the snake-oil peddlers like "Baz" want to believe their own dystopian myths, whatever... what get's my goat is that this film is being used as a calling-card for Australia accross the entire world. People of good will all over this planet who know little about Australia other than kangeroos and koalas, will see this film and think it history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com