tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post4097289715751500374..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: The Harvard letterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-7972768466826125102018-02-24T11:33:24.391+11:002018-02-24T11:33:24.391+11:00I disagree, Corbyn, Sanders and Arden have done we...<em>I disagree, Corbyn, Sanders and Arden have done well advocating an anti-rich politics. </em><br /><br />I think that the response by the political/media establishment to Sanders and Corbyn confirms my point. In the US the establishment has doubled down on identity politics because they were terrified that the left-wing populism of Sanders would propel him into the White House. <br /><br />And in Britain, where the media appears superficially to be very strongly left-leaning, you'd expect Corbyn to be hailed as the Messiah. But the British media has not been overly friendly to Corbyn. <br /><br />Sanders and Corbyn are the wrong sort of leftists. They're the bad sort of leftist, the sort with actual left-wing political views.<br /><br />Class consciousness still exists in a rudimentary form despite the best efforts of the globalist/SJWs. Sanders and Corbyn have shown that class-based politics can still gain some traction, which explains the frenzied efforts of the media to push identity politics even harder.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-81782826433280532092018-02-23T17:31:31.221+11:002018-02-23T17:31:31.221+11:00I disagree, Corbyn, Sanders and Ardern have done w...I disagree, Corbyn, Sanders and Ardern have done well advocating an anti-rich politics. Aus Labor hasn't found a leader like this yet.<br /><br />If civic statists want to regain some legitimacy, they could at least routinely accuse non-whites of racism.<br /><br />I do think that any kind of "pan-racial" loyalty is nonsense, the 20th century proved that in Africa and Asia. Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-369019971215687092018-02-23T10:30:08.651+11:002018-02-23T10:30:08.651+11:00This is a prime example of why we cannot avoid ide...<em>This is a prime example of why we cannot avoid identity politics. </em><br /><br />What worries me about embracing identity politics is my feeling that that is exactly what the ruling class wants us to do. Once that happens all dissidents can easily be labelled as Nazis and white supremacists, and easily destroyed.<br /><br />What the ruling class doesn't want us to do is to notice that the one identity they don't want us to embrace is a class identity.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-10030520940174956912018-02-23T06:57:18.429+11:002018-02-23T06:57:18.429+11:00This is exactly how liberals understand democracy....This is exactly how liberals understand democracy. Any people that choose to self govern in opposition to liberalism are “undemocratic” and destroying democracy. Vox Day provides an example: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/02/democracy-is-sex.htmlUrban IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-12217671392495426062018-02-23T00:41:38.943+11:002018-02-23T00:41:38.943+11:00"A Jew" said to be "passing as whit..."A Jew" said to be "passing as white male" named new Harvard president, disappointing some who hoped for color.<br /> <br />https://www.nysun.com/national/harvards-new-president-finds-a-teaching-moment/90196/<br />Buck Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-28057967418361457422018-02-22T10:50:26.841+11:002018-02-22T10:50:26.841+11:00This is straight-up extortion. The faculty is, by ...This is straight-up extortion. The faculty is, by abuse of their authority, exacting a price from the privileged, advantaged students that find themselves at a temporary disadvantage. Will some students challenge this on the clear matter of principle at issue? They can't all be brain-dead, can they?<br /><br />But of course, no one with half a brain goes to Harvard to get an education that they could improve on elsewhere for half the price. They go to Harvard to get a seat at the table. So, it is likely that the students will ignore the principle and will instead appreciate the fascist wisdom of the choice and embrace its force as "an act of life", as intended. Most of the students are still children after all, and this sort of authoritarian instruction as a pragmatic power play will serve them well if they fully embrace it. <br /><br />It's a punitive expedient forced on students by an authoritarian Harvard faculty. <br /><br />Am I too cynical? <br />Buck Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-31806456280863338002018-02-21T21:49:45.524+11:002018-02-21T21:49:45.524+11:00" And yet these people do not see themselves ..." And yet these people do not see themselves for who they are."<br /><br />Well put.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-11638248849088237142018-02-21T21:35:48.208+11:002018-02-21T21:35:48.208+11:00That's possibly so. If you just put a whole lo...That's possibly so. If you just put a whole lot of uni students into a club, without a higher purpose to work towards, or some sort of traditional ethos to hold to, then you might end up with something more low natured. But I have no experience of the American campus fraternities - hard for me to judge from this distance.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-40320064672122485262018-02-21T20:56:29.514+11:002018-02-21T20:56:29.514+11:00This is a prime example of why we cannot avoid ide...This is a prime example of why we cannot avoid identity politics. <br /><br />Leftist Indian Wajahat Ali attacks his co-ethnics for being too friendly towards whites. White conservatives are still reluctant to shame white liberals into racial loyalty.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/966122611418771457Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-28551945077894745332018-02-21T19:58:19.644+11:002018-02-21T19:58:19.644+11:00"Someone went to a lot of trouble to think th..."Someone went to a lot of trouble to think this up". Yep, you almost have to admire this feat of sophistry on the part of Harvard. The contradictions of the administration's statement are definitely there. But, mark, on your point of men and women needing their own spaces to cultivate their respective virtues, I agree completely. However, I don't know if the fraternities achieved this. I've never been to the U.S., but everything I've ever seen or heard of these fraternities suggests they did nothing but corrupt the youth of America. Ted Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17539830174704513888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-59922827814111231662018-02-21T11:47:30.774+11:002018-02-21T11:47:30.774+11:00This is a totalitarian joke. And yet these people...This is a totalitarian joke. And yet these people do not see themselves for who they are. <br /><br />Stalin would be proud: YOu can vote for whoever you want ..... as long as its the party. They even had elections.... (you do get choice), but of course there's ONLY one party you would want to vote for right?? Right??<br /><br />This is how a tyranny cloaks its evil. <br /><br />Your choice to obey us or not. But obey you must. Why not help us mask our true nature??<br /><br /><br />Diversity™ means everyone MUST think alike about the agenda of 'diversity™'cecilhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295507329028875050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-46355698509901186182018-02-21T10:14:13.498+11:002018-02-21T10:14:13.498+11:00The choice to belong to a fraternity is being take...<em>The choice to belong to a fraternity is being taken away, but students get to be involved in the process of choice being taken away and this is supposed to uphold their "choice and agency". </em><br /><br />It's like when a mugger says, "Hand over your wallet or I'll shoot you." You have a choice. You have agency. You still lose your wallet but at least you were involved in the process.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com