tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post3623411310977433148..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Australian Immigration Minister: mistakes were madeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-36324020910532643442016-11-26T18:49:29.138+11:002016-11-26T18:49:29.138+11:00It was ironic that Muslims started the Lebanese wa...It was ironic that Muslims started the Lebanese war when both Muslim and Christians and other had been living together in harmony for ages. The militants took control of who could leave Lebanon and guess what, we got nothing but the persecutors.A local in the knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04370879269181612723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-59028213683581933862016-11-26T16:57:53.015+11:002016-11-26T16:57:53.015+11:00Yes, sad to say, your last line is true. Whitlam d...Yes, sad to say, your last line is true. Whitlam did many bad things for the country, but Fraser managed to be even worse.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-39521212208940257012016-11-26T14:42:24.536+11:002016-11-26T14:42:24.536+11:00Fraser is such an odd character.
After the lunacy...<em>Fraser is such an odd character.</em><br /><br />After the lunacy of the Whitlam years Fraser was elected in a landslide because Australians thought they were getting another Menzies - a sensible pragmatic moderate centrist. What they got was a wild-eyed idealist who had not only drunk deeply of the liberal Kool-Aid - he'd drained the glass and asked for another.<br /><br />Fraser's tenure as prime minister marked the beginnings of two fatal course changes in Australian politics - towards vicious short-sighted far-right economic policies and towards far-left social policies.<br /><br />Fraser managed the impossible - he actually did more harm than Whitlam.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-21035432059221751712016-11-26T10:20:01.644+11:002016-11-26T10:20:01.644+11:00Fraser is such an odd character. The problems with...Fraser is such an odd character. The problems with the Lebanese Muslim community were evident by 2007 when The Australian newspaper ran a story about it. The newspaper story mentioned how concerned the Cabinet and the Department had been about changing normal eligibility rules to bring in the Lebanese Muslims. Fraser overruled them and then 30 years later said that he was not responsible for anything bad happening, it was all the fault of the wider Australian community:<br /><br />"From my point of view, I think the education system and the community have got to take a pretty fair part of the blame (for current problems)," Mr Fraser said. "If there were known to be problems in relation to the Lebanese, maybe the very pertinent question is: why weren't some special efforts made to ward off future difficulties?"<br /><br />So in Fraser's view:<br />1. It was OK for him as PM to push for a policy that everyone else predicted would cause troubles<br />2. But then the people on the ground in Australia should have known that it was going to cause troubles and take preventative action<br />3. Therefore the blame goes not to himself as the architect of the policy but to ordinary school teachers and other members of the local community for not "warding off" the problem.<br /><br />There is a lack of connection to reality here, both in his denial of responsibility and his belief that some technocratic measure in a school might have avoided the bad outcomes.<br /><br />Newspaper source:<br /><br />http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/cabinet-papers/fraser-was-warned-on-lebanese-migrants/story-e6frgda6-1111112763458?nk=d29831271584fb2a9eeb369445da66a0-1480114469Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-33752123437195566362016-11-26T09:58:07.874+11:002016-11-26T09:58:07.874+11:00The Second World War taught two indisputable lesso...The Second World War taught two indisputable lessons: race is, or could be, dynamite; ditto religion. And ever since, Western politicians have ignored these lessons. Some, no doubt, were acting for the USSR but obviously many weren't. All very odd.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-20118994476722656792016-11-26T09:50:07.670+11:002016-11-26T09:50:07.670+11:00Interesting - I didn't think it would begin so...Interesting - I didn't think it would begin so quickly. But I'm not totally surprised as the energy, and the political logic, on the left is pushing towards this outcome. I wonder what the reaction of white leftists will be if this picks up steam? I don't mean ordinary, semi-political left-wing white people, but the activist types. If they have no future leadership role in the Democratic party, what will they do? Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-28757932491258551182016-11-26T08:55:52.067+11:002016-11-26T08:55:52.067+11:00It's already happening. A black Bernie Sander...It's already happening. A black Bernie Sanders spokeswoman recently publicly stated "we don't need white people leading the Democratic party right now."<br /><br />http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/23/cnns_symone_sanders_we_dont_need_white_people_leading_the_democratic_party_right_now.html<br /><br />Also, I think that white liberals see themselves as being of the same people as nonwhites, if only subconsciously; they think of white liberals plus nonwhites as "our people," as "us," with nonliberal whites of course being "them." They are in for a rude awakening as nonwhites gain greater power and reveal that of course they do not see whites, liberal or non-liberal, as members of the same people as themselves.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15048343595688010664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-36073291077266129572016-11-26T00:04:25.098+11:002016-11-26T00:04:25.098+11:00Some good new insights there, Mark. Thank you!Some good new insights there, Mark. Thank you!RobertBrandywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661602554300651862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-83998245732722866052016-11-25T23:44:15.382+11:002016-11-25T23:44:15.382+11:00Mistakes were made, now you and those complicit in...Mistakes were made, now you and those complicit in the bureaucracy and elsewhere need to be rooted out and made to PAY, in prison, money and punishment.<br /><br />There's no damn way 'sorry' is going to be enough. Because this is a crime, not a policy option.cecilhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06295507329028875050noreply@blogger.com