tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post3329439798777080491..comments2024-03-25T19:48:24.624+11:00Comments on Oz Conservative: Singer's tram rageUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-79429259733199540282008-11-27T20:45:00.000+11:002008-11-27T20:45:00.000+11:00I thought her calling the girls fat was a classic ...I thought her calling the girls fat was a classic comeback. One thing young girls do focus seriously on is body image. <BR/><BR/>Because they take it so fanatically seriously (a goodly number of them), they perceive image-based insults as some of the worst you can hurl at them.Nilkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13872495050796257177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-78700171912347796912008-11-27T04:11:00.000+11:002008-11-27T04:11:00.000+11:00Blaming the victim, even if it's yourself.Blaming the victim, even if it's yourself.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02899610198416674270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-59070112861499811522008-11-22T09:54:00.000+11:002008-11-22T09:54:00.000+11:00Jaz, interesting thought.Singer's reaction *is* wo...Jaz, interesting thought.<BR/><BR/>Singer's reaction *is* worth looking at.<BR/><BR/>You would think that someone who experienced such an incident would think the girls' behaviour shockingly uncivilised and that they would reflect on what had lowered the civilisational standards of their society.<BR/><BR/>But during the incident Singer didn't challenge the girls by reminding them of expected standards. She threw a personal insult at them.<BR/><BR/>Later, she begins to process the incident through some kind of liberal thought process, and decides that she herself has been the bully and that she should feel guilty and apologetic.<BR/><BR/>Jaz, you're right that she has the blinkers on. I suspect that you're right too that she very much wants to disown her own initial instinctive "spirited reaction".<BR/><BR/>Is this because the liberal subject is supposed (in theory anyway) to keep the peace by proving their neutrality - their willingness to bend to the "other"?<BR/><BR/>Or perhaps, as you put it, Singer wants to disown a kind of heretical moment, in which she momentarily took a non-liberal posture and reacted viscerally against an aspect of liberal modernity.Mark Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961688379656119701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6832901.post-60585147293464256712008-11-22T09:25:00.000+11:002008-11-22T09:25:00.000+11:00The tram incident is yet another small defeat for ...The tram incident is yet another small defeat for the West in the decline of the West. Yet, liberalism will somehow invert it into a triumph of progress. Jill Singer just hasn't quite figured out how to do it in this case, because she's personally involved. She has a spirited reaction against the girls' savagery, and now feels sorry that she couldn't instantly do the liberal doublethink: defeat / degeneracy is victory / progress! (I'm alluding to Orwell's 1984 slogans.) She threw out a barb, where the liberal thing to do would be to thank profusely these girls for being tough and sassy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com